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True Celebrity:

My 2 3/4 year-old daughter came up to me yesterday as I was sitting reading a book and said, "Daddy, I want to see Barack Obama." I replied, "Natalie, who is Barack Obama?" To which she replied, firmly and insistently, "I don't know!"

[Obama is not a frequent topic of conversation in the Bernstein household, but Natalie was driven to day camp for two weeks during NPR's Morning edition, which I think is the source of her infatuation.]

Bill Poser (mail) (www):
I think you should be glad that she is taking the empirical approach: since she doesn't know who Obama is, but has heard of him, clearly he is a subject worthy of investigation. Little kids are much more sensible than they get credit for.
8.25.2008 7:22pm
Joshua:
Had she stayed at home the past two weeks, she'd probably be asking to see Michael Phelps instead.
8.25.2008 7:25pm
Cornellian (mail):
That's an impressive interest in the issues of the day.

Reminds me of that story Chemerinsky told about his kid's insightful comment on constitutional law.

Now if she starts to display an interest in the D.C. housing market, I'll be really impressed.
8.25.2008 7:41pm
Smellovision (mail) (www):
Wow, you're stupid; you had to ask your TODDLER who Barack Obama is...
8.25.2008 7:45pm
krs:
Smellovision, you seem to have missed the posts on the Socratic method. Fortunately young Natalie fessed up right away to her degree of preparation and short-circuited the whole exercise. She seems very wise.
8.25.2008 7:48pm
1l:
Anyone know if she was unprepared because she had a laptop and wasn't paying attention?
8.25.2008 7:51pm
Ted S. (mail) (www):
Bill Poser wrote:
I think you should be glad that she is taking the empirical approach


Shouldn't she be taking an originalist approach?
8.25.2008 7:57pm
Steve Lubet (mail):
Barack Obama is the guy who approved this message.
8.25.2008 7:58pm
DonP (mail):
That makes her about as well informed as the average Chicago voter as to who Obama is and what he has accomplished.

In fact I'm sure Mayor Daley could arrange for her to vote for him in a Chicago precinct with no problem come November if you're passing through on election day.
8.25.2008 8:03pm
Perseus (mail):
My 2 3/4 year-old daughter

Not 2 and a half years old (as children like to emphasize) or even almost 3 years old, but 2 3/4 years old? Is this part of her quarterly performance review, which takes into account seasonal factors such as summer day camp?
8.25.2008 8:07pm
BT:
Wouldn't a more modern appraoch be 2.75 years old? I have to admit I have never heard of anyone, child or not, referred to as X and 3/4 years old.
8.25.2008 8:23pm
FantasiaWHT:
This is almost, but not quite, as good as my then-two-year-old son telling an acquaintance of my wife's "my daddy lives at law school!" during my 1L year.
8.25.2008 8:32pm
Uthaw:
Tell her, "He's the degenerate socialist who is a secret Muslim educated in an Indonesian madrassa."
8.25.2008 8:40pm
NickM (mail) (www):
1l wins the thread.

Nick
8.25.2008 8:47pm
KWC (mail):
I'm confused. Does this prove that Obama is "just" a celebrity, or, quite the opposite--as NPR is a news station--that Barack Obama is a political figure? You don't hear much about Paris Hilton or Britney Spears on NPR. Thankfully.
8.25.2008 8:49pm
Bill McGonigle (mail) (www):
BT: my daughter was recently 4 7/8, as was happy to tell everybody. As her birthday loomed, she figured there were further fractions to investigate, but I held her back for basic dignity. They don't give an inch.

David: Natalie is very efficient. I ask Democrats the same question all the time and it takes them an average of five minutes to arrive at the same conclusion.
8.25.2008 8:49pm
joe moran:
I agree with Mr. Bernstein's daughter: absolutely no one knows who Sen. Obama is. The birth records in his native homeland are, to be sure, far from adequate. Conveniently, both his parents are dead. Who is he? A Soviet plant? A Muslim dupe? Jes' good ol' Obammy?
8.25.2008 9:07pm
grasmere10 (mail):
I hope for Mr. Bernstein's sake the child welfare people are not monitoring TVC. I understand the poor little girl was not only made to listen to NPR, but was actually strapped to a chair during this treatment.
8.25.2008 9:11pm
Ben Franklin (mail):
Grasmere10, it sounds like a treatment not too unlike those portrayed in a Clockwork Orange.

I bet he reads her Pravda over breakfast as well.
8.25.2008 9:18pm
mad the swine (mail):
"The birth records in his native homeland are, to be sure, far from adequate."

I'm sure you intend this as satire, but given the evidence that his Hawaii birth certificate is forged, it's an open question where precisely Barack Hussein Obama was born.
8.25.2008 9:18pm
LM (mail):

I'm sure you intend this as satire, but given the evidence that his Hawaii birth certificate is forged, it's an open question where precisely Barack Hussein Obama was born.

... and you guys accuse the left of being unhinged?
8.25.2008 10:12pm
theobromophile (www):
Not 2 and a half years old (as children like to emphasize) or even almost 3 years old, but 2 3/4 years old? Is this part of her quarterly performance review, which takes into account seasonal factors such as summer day camp?

That brings to mind this exchange, a few years' back, between my father and my little siblings:

My dad: "[Mike], stop acting like you're two years old!"
Sister: "Daddy, he IS two years old."
Dad: "No he's not; he's two and a half."

When you're that young, the fraction of a year is pretty significant stuff.
8.25.2008 11:00pm
JB:
This is an epic thread.

The OP is so great people are even mostly ignoring the trolls.
8.25.2008 11:39pm
JB:
This is an epic thread.

The OP is so great people are even mostly ignoring the trolls.
8.25.2008 11:39pm
Rod (mail):
Surely she asked to see John McCain too!

Listening to two weeks of tax-payer supported radio programming that was completely balanced in their coverage would definitely result in McCain curiosity for a precocious 2-3/4 year old. Right?
8.26.2008 12:49am
Jeremy Pierce (mail) (www):
My daughter is about a year older (so 3 and 3/4), and hers was "Mommy, what's a Barack Obama?"
8.26.2008 2:21am
Brian Macker (mail) (www):
<blockquote>
Tell her, "He's the <s>degenerate</s> socialist who is a secret Muslim educated in an Indonesian <s>madrassa.</s> public school"</b>
</blockquote>Fixed it.

That explains why Obama thinks there are sixty states. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws">The fifty seven he had visited with one more to go, plus Alaska and Hawaii.</a> His campaign managers had informed him that they couldn't afford to visit those two states. He was acculturated as an Indonesian, not an American, and thus he missed this simple lesson.

Live by the "potatoe" die by the "57 states."
8.26.2008 9:29am
LM (mail):

Live by the "potatoe" die by the "57 states."

Yeah. If there's one thing people believe about Obama, it's that he's dumb.

Good luck with that.
8.26.2008 10:29am
Bob from Ohio (mail):
A lesson here, try Mike and Mike on the car instead.

Just as humorous as NPR and she will learn some useful things.
8.26.2008 2:52pm
tgb1000 (mail):
Wow, there's nothing like a Bernstein thread to make you abandon all hope for humanity.
8.26.2008 5:31pm
Jaime non-Lawyer:
Likewise, my 9 1/3 year old son is rooting for Obama. When I ask him, why, he just says, "I like him". I think it's because his 2nd grade teacher said she was voting for him during the primaries.
8.26.2008 6:18pm
Brian Macker (mail) (www):
"Yeah. If there's one thing people believe about Obama, it's that he's dumb."

I joked that is possible he didn't know there were 50 states because he wasn't educated as a child in the US.
You're the one who deduced he was dumb because of it.

People don't really know that much about him. Two things are clear. He's a socialist who likes attending racist churches.
8.26.2008 8:10pm
LM (mail):
Brian Macker,

If you really believe he didn't know there are 50 states, then what the hell... you might as well go with the socialist and racist nonsense too. By the way, I have it from an equally reliable source he's also a cannibal.
8.26.2008 8:52pm
loki13 (mail):
Brian,
You missed the caliphate, the forged birth certificate, and the madrassa training of the Manchurian... um, Obama. Also, he killed Vince Foster. Oh wait, that was the *other* Democratic candidate. I always get my nutjob theories confused.
8.26.2008 9:03pm
Brian Macker (mail) (www):
LM,

I can understand your inability to read my first comment due to the unmatched html tag. But it's pretty clear what I was saying in the last post. I don't have the energy to explain things to you now because it looks like it will take many posts for you to understand.

You see there is this html thing called strikeout. ...

I suggest you also look up what the word "joked" means. What I actually think he did is mispoke, but I think it is due to a basic innumeracy on his part. He's made many numeric gaffs.

Especially given the fact that he tried to explain himself and was cut off by an aide by saying, "I understand I said there were 57 states today. It's a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, uh."

Loki13,

Find someone who knows html to explain things to you also.

There was a strikeout over the conspiracy stuff.

Obama establishes his socialist credentials in his autobiography. There are plenty of socialists in the democratic party. Does that surprise you. Would it surprise you if I told you that many politicians in Europe are socialist. Would you accuse me of consipracy theories if I claimed that these politicians were socialists. Ever wonder why Obama is so popular in Europe?

It's well know that Obama was a attending and contributing member of Trinity United Church of Christ for a very long time. He chose Rev. Wright and Black Liberation Theology. A religion that exudes hatred of white people. They didn't choose him. He choose them.

Obama has close associations with all sorts of extreme leftists. Bill Ayers for example. Obama chaired an organization founded by Ayers. Close enough for Ayers to host a brunch for Obama. Obama's explaination is NOT that he didn't realize who this bastard was at the time, but that there is no association. Which is obviously baloney.

Politicians distancing themselves from their past and not giving a straight answers on their views is standard operating procedure and requires no conspiracy.

Obama's for change? Change of what to what?

Sorry if I got you riled by questioning your prophet.
8.26.2008 10:43pm
jukeboxgrad (mail):
lm:

By the way, I have it from an equally reliable source he's also a cannibal.


You forgot to mention he's blowing Wright.
8.27.2008 2:23am
jukeboxgrad (mail):
brian:

Politicians distancing themselves from their past and not giving a straight answers on their views


I didn't realize we were discussing McCain.

I think it is due to a basic innumeracy on his part


I didn't realize we were discussing McCain. I guess you must be thinking of the $2.8 trillion gap in McCain's economic plan.
8.27.2008 2:23am
Brian Macker (mail) (www):
"I didn't realize we were discussing McCain."

That's what "politicians" means and it certainly applies to McCain.

Yes, I believe McCain is just like other politicians in this regard. It's a requirement in order to get elected. Politicians who openly discuss their specific views on each topic will alienate a large proportion of the voters on their own hot button issues.

So politicians avoid discussing substance and stick to thinks like, "change". They then allow the suckers to fill in the blank with whatever desired change comes to their mind.

Actually LM and Loki13 turned the subject to making up claims what I believed about Obama. Probably because it is very hard to defend against claims Obama is a socialist, or that he joined Trinity Church. Much easier to defend against him being a cannibal.

Problem is I don't believe he's a cannibal or a muslim. I merely believe he's a believer in Black Liberation Theology.
8.27.2008 10:18am
Brian Macker (mail) (www):
jukeboxgrad,

Look there is already going to be bad blood between us because I called you on your attacks on McCain. Claiming he wasn't tortured to the degree of physical impairment. That's just baloney. I highly suggest you retract your statements on this touchy subject.

Is being a socialist such a bad thing that it's comparable to cannibalism in your mind?
8.27.2008 10:22am
jukeboxgrad (mail):
brian:

It's a requirement in order to get elected


If you think that flipflopping as many times as McCain has flipflopped is "a requirement in order to get elected," that means your standards are too low.

I highly suggest you retract your statements on this touchy subject.


I highly suggest that you pay attention to my response to you, here.
8.27.2008 1:27pm