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Canadian Commission Approves Monument Named "To Victims of Totalitarian Communism":

So says this press release; I blogged about the name controversy last week.

Thanks to Alykhan Velshi, Communications Director for Canadian M.P. Jason Kenney, for the pointer.

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  1. Canadian Commission Approves Monument Named "To Victims of Totalitarian Communism":
  2. Mustn't Offend the Communists:
Crunchy Frog:
Not all communists are totalitarian - only those in power. The rest of them are just "potential" totalitarians.
9.23.2009 1:04pm
Melancton Smith:
So true, Crunchy Frog. I have relatives that describe themselves as socialist, but they have never had to live under a socialist regime. Actual socialist and communist regimes require a totalitarian government in order to function. Without the carrot that capitalism provides, one must resort to the stick.
9.23.2009 1:38pm
threeonefive:
is sweden not socialist?
9.23.2009 1:39pm
Hannibal Lector:
Sounds reasonable to me. Lots of "useful idiots" have been communists without quite fully realizing the evil they were promulgating. I've known a few.
9.23.2009 2:11pm
George Smith:
There is probably a little inscription somewhere on the monument saying that real communism hasn't been tried yet.
9.23.2009 3:34pm
egd:
Crunchy Frog:

Not all communists are totalitarian - only those in power. The rest of them are just "potential" totalitarians.

Good point.

This monument probably doesn't contain individuals killed by communists trying to establish a Communist state, only those killed by official state actors.

Czar Nicholas was clearly killed by Communists, but most would classify his death as revolution-caused, rather than Communism-caused.
9.23.2009 3:41pm
Mikhail Koulikov (mail):
А, блядь, жертвам фашизма, радикального ислама, еврейских террористов и режима Сухарто у них есть? Ну а если нет, то хуле лезут?

What the fuck. Do they also have memorials to victims of fascism, Islamic radicalism, Jewish terroristm, and Suharto's regime? And if they don't, then how dare they single anything out.

- Mikhail Koulikov
9.23.2009 3:54pm
ChrisatOffice (mail):
Could you tell us what part of the untransliterated statement says 'What the f**'? Could be useful.
9.23.2009 3:57pm
DangerMouse:
As if there were any other kind...
9.23.2009 4:44pm
geokstr (mail):
The original proposal for the monument was going to have all the names of those killed in letters 1 millimeter (one thousandth of a meter) high laser inscribed on it, 100 names across, until they realized the monument would still be over a thousand feet high and it would take several tens of years to inscribe all the names, and they would still have to leave a whole bunch of space for future inscriptees...

Then the inscription was simply going to read "But the omelette would have been very tasty at some future unknown time so it would have been worth all those eggs", but they realized that might be too cryptic for a public-school trained citizenry that wasn't sure exactly what communism was but that it was on the road to utopia...

Before they settled on this format.
9.23.2009 5:07pm
American Psikhuska (mail):
Where is the monument to the victims of totalitarian capitalism?

Oh that's right, under capitalism power is more democratic and distributed because people vote with their dollars**, the fruits of their labor and investments. That's OK, I answered my own question.

** Of course the inflationary efforts of central banks using fiat currency are a hidden tax that depreciate the currency and are therefore anti-capitalistic. And totalitarian governments requires high tax levels and restrictions on economic freedom and are therefore inherently anti-capitalisticn as well.
9.23.2009 7:20pm
Mikhail Koulikov (mail):
Could you tell us what part of the untransliterated statement says 'What the f**'? Could be useful.

'Блядь' (literally, 'whore') is a general-purpose interjection in Russian that is generally used in the same way that 'fuck' is in English.
9.23.2009 8:38pm
Cornellian (mail):
Where is the monument to the victims of totalitarian capitalism?

Technically one could have a monument to the "victims" of every conceivable form of government, they'd just cover varying numbers of victims.

I'm holding out for a monument for victims of Athenian-style direct democracy.
9.24.2009 1:25am
American Psikhuska (mail):
Cornellian-

I'm holding out for a monument for victims of Athenian-style direct democracy.

It all depends on how many fundamental rights are carved out. If property rights were sacrosanct then even under direct democracy the majority couldn't vote to steal property from the most productive, talented, skilled, hardworking, etc. Same with other rights that are important to protect, like life, liberty, self-defense, privacy, equal treatment before the law, etc.

Oprah, for example, makes tons of money from her image, discussions, opinions, etc. - mainly from the advertisements packaged alongside them. Some dishonest types "voting" to take (steal) the fruits of her talents, labor, and abilities certainly shouldn't be allowed to profit just because they agree on wanting to steal from her. They can try to profit from their images, discussions, opinions, etc. just the same.
9.24.2009 8:21pm
American Psikhuska (mail):
Forgot to list the right to bodily integrity among the rights worth protecting above. (Basically, the right to not have your body assaulted, battered, penetrated, etc.) Some people seem to be so ignorant they don't understand that.
9.25.2009 7:06pm

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