The Right To Bear Arms, Minors, and 18-to-20-Year-Olds (and Maybe Even Older):

My right to bear arms article is quite long, so I don’t think I can serialize it on the blog the way I’ve done with some past articles. But I thought I’d blog about a few particularly interesting issues — often ones that are part of the “research agenda” aspect of the article, because my goal is just to identify the some of the key arguments, not to give a definitive answer.

Note that here, as in future posts, I use the scope / burden / reducing danger taxonomy I mention in the Introduction, and discuss at length in Part I of the article. (Short version: Scope arguments for restricting a right, which I think are often quite strong: A restriction might not be covered by the constitutional text, the original meaning of the text, the traditional understanding of the text’s scope, or the background legal principles establishing who is entitled to various rights. Burden arguments for restricting a right, which I also think are often quite strong: A restriction might only slightly interfere with rightholders’ ability to get the benefits that the right secures, and thus might be a burden that doesn’t rise to the level of unconstitutionally “infring[ing]” the right. Reducing danger arguments for restricting a right, which I find troublesome for reasons I discuss at pp. 20-31: A restriction might reduce various dangers (in the case of arms possession, chiefly the dangers of crime and injury) so much that the court concludes that even a substantial burden is justified. This is where talk of intermediate scrutiny or strict scrutiny would normally fit, though, as Part I.C argues, such labels likely obscure more than they reveal.)

So with this, on to my first excerpt: The right to bear arms in self-defense — both under the Second Amendment and under the 40+ state constitutional provisions that secure such a right, often quite expressly — and young people, both under 18 and 18-to-20. I have omitted most of the footnotes; to see them, please look at the full article.

Gabriel McCall (mail):
It might be useful to recall the old language of "privileges and immunities", and to draw a distinction between a right to do something, and a right not to have something done to you. Extending immunities to minors and young adults does not generally enable them to cause new harms, so it seems safe and reasonable to do so even if they aren't necessarily entitled to those immunities in the sense of being full citizens. On the other hand, extending privileges to young people is a much more dangerous matter in that misuse of a privilege creates a much more direct potential for harm to others, and it is both reasonable and precedented to consider delaying the recognition of adult privileges until full majority.
3.25.2009 2:22pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
Mr. McCall: I'm not sure this analytical structure quite works. The right to have a gun is a right to do something -- and it's also a right not to have something done to you (not to have the government throw you in jail for owning a gun). The same is true of the right to free speech, and a wide range of other constitutional rights. There may well be a sensible distinction drawn among those rights, but I'm not sure "right to do something" vs. "right not to have something done to you" works, at least at that level of abstraction and without further specification.
3.25.2009 2:33pm
Soronel Haetir (mail):
I also have problems with the juvinile adjudication not being a full crimiminal process in that it can be used later, ie Illinos denying a firearms licence to anyone so adjudicated.
3.25.2009 3:07pm
David McCourt (mail):
Professor Volokh,

I have a question concerning your "taxonomy," in which, it seems to me, you first have posited a "default" right of maximum scope, and then go about assessing whether the right should be "restricted," based on considerations of "scope/burden/reducing danger." The first of these, scope, seems not to fit here. Shouldn't the intitial task simply be to deteremine what the scope of the right is, by reference to the text, historical understanding, practice, etc. This is not really an exercise in "restricting" a right, but in discovering what the right is. In other words, you seem to have created a presumption that the right extends out to the maximum, and then placed a burden on the side which says the contours of the right are such and such (some distance shy of this maximum).

This allocation of pleading/persuasion structure may effect the conclusions you draw. If I have to prove that some amount of my income, shy of 100%, belongs to me and doesn't have to be paid as tax, I'm likely to pay more tax than if the inquiry is simply a neutral one as to what my tax bill is.

It may well be that children do not have the right to bear arms, because, according to historical understanding, practice, etc., the right was never thought or intended to be possessed by children, but only by adults (however measured). This is not "restricting" a right, it is simply saying what the right, in fact, was and is.

The questions concerning whether and when children may be permitted to possess arms when they have no "right" to do so, but may derive a benefit therefrom, balanced against the cost or danger to others, would then be legislative ones, which is in fact what they -- the "burden" and "reducing danger" considerations -- sound like.
3.25.2009 3:40pm
The Unbeliever:
I first read the title a little too literally, and spent a few seconds wondering how one would exercise the "Right To Bear... Minors". Amusing mental images followed.

Back on point--is there some constitutional caveat that allows states to abridge minors' 2nd Amendment rights, when presumably the same kind of age-based discrimination of their 1st Amendment would not be tolerated? (Or 5th, 8th, 13th, insert_favorite_amendment, etc.) You mentioned some cases touching on 1A restrictions in your note, but they seem to have different justifications for those restrictions than the near-total possession restrictions applied to minor's 2A rights.
3.25.2009 3:47pm
wpeak (mail) (www):
In your long and excellent article you include a whole class of Arms normally excluded from the discussion. I speak of bladed weapons.

No doubt the hyper/partisan touchstone of Gun Powder based weapons has so dominated the commentary that we have all but forgotten that Arms refers to more than just 'Fire Arms'.

Yet a casual reader might be forgiven if they came to the conclusion that they as a class are not protected along with all other Arms.

As a one time fencer, I look forward to the day when an honest citizen can walk the streets armed with a sword or at least a Bo without being accosted by the police.
3.25.2009 3:58pm
Clayton E. Cramer (mail) (www):
The cheeky, bumper sticker slogan (parodying the one that we all saw in the 1960s and 1970s): "Old enough to vote, old enough to bear arms!"

More seriously, a review of Colonial militia statutes reveals that generally, men 18 years old and above were obligated to bear arms as part of militia duty, and in some colonies, as long as 16. If they were regarded as responsible enough with weapons to be armed for defense of the colony, it raises questions as to what we have done wrong as a society that people that age can't be trusted today.
3.25.2009 4:22pm
Kirk:
Eugene,

I don't think you really meant to link this post in with the ones from Richard Painter. Or did I just reveal myself as being too dumb to get the connection? :-)
3.25.2009 4:33pm
FWB (mail):
I must assume that these restrictions are based on the premise that the 2nd Amendment allows for "reasonable" restrictions on the "Right". But Rights as framed in the Decl. of Ind. are inalienable, i.e. cannot be taken away; cannot be given up. Rights are endowed by the Creator so where in this endowment does an age restriction come into play.

In my extended family, children always have been and always will be introduced to firearms beginning around age 3. Kids are taken on trips to the range with the adults and helped with shooting small caliber pistols and rifles. Firearms are not kept a mystery to them. And to date, in my family, never once has there been an accident nor has any child ever picked up and played with a firearm.

Children of fairly youthful age not only hunted and carried weapons safely for generations in this country but often certain individuals of young age served militarily. I for one killed my first mule deer at age 8. I have ancestors who fought in the Rev War at age 14.

I suspect the age restriction thing is an outgrowth of the 1968 GCA as I don't recall any such restrictions occurring to people under 18 when I was young (50s &60s).

And another part may be that there is a great fear of the youth that has arisen because of a general lack of morality and ethics. Regardless of how one thinks, this reduction in morality and ethics parallels the removal of religion from public life.

Dominus providebit!
3.25.2009 4:56pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
Kirk: Fixed, thanks.

FWB: Actually, my discussion isn't based on the premise that any restrictions are proper if they are "reasonable." Rather, on this point, the premise on this point is that the enumeration of certain rights was originally and traditional understood as applying to adults, and not necessarily to minors. We see this most clearly with regard to the inalienable right to liberty: The government can track down runaway children and bring them back to their parents; if an adult locks a child in his room as punishment, the government can stop third parties from helping the child escape. As to adults, all of this would be an unacceptable infringement on liberty, but as to children vis-a-vis their parents it's quite permissible. And that the Due Process Clause doesn't expressly limit itself to adults, or contain a parent-child exception, doesn't control: We understand that there's an implicit exception for children.

To be sure, the limits on gun possession by minors often apply even when the parent authorizes such gun possession (though much depends on the particular state law). The analogy I give isn't meant to be perfect -- only to illustrate the possibility of implicit exceptions to constitutional rights, and the possibility that minors don't have the same constitutional rights that adults do.
3.25.2009 5:25pm
Kent G. Budge (www):
"The Right To Bear Arms, Minors, and 18-to-20-Year-Olds"

My wife has borne some minors, but never any 18-to-20-Year-Olds.
3.25.2009 7:33pm
Jacob Berlove:
Prof. Volokh,

DO you believe that the second amendment only guarantees the right to weapons for self-defense, but not to use in a potential armed struggle against tyranny. That position seems quite odd in light of the subordinate militia clause. While the operative clause is absolute, I can't see any reasonable reading that would exclude form the scope of the right the very purpose that the militia clause says the right was designed to protect.
3.25.2009 8:06pm
Bama 1L:
Michael Steven Green had a good series at Prawfs responding to the point raised immediately above. Start here. I
3.25.2009 8:57pm
Jon Roland (mail) (www):
I have several issues with the EV article as written.

First, it is not clear why it was written or what it is intended to accomplish, as legal scholarship. It seems to cover ground already covered by others, and rather than clarifying the issues, seems to muddle many of them. It is not as though one can write an article on the state of jurisprudence post-Heller as being even momentarily settled. It is not. It is in a profound state of flux, and scholarship needs to reflect that.

Second, a position cannot, logically, be "probably constitutional". The logic of the Constitution, like it or not, is binary, not probabalistic. Something is either constitutional or it is not. Anyone who examines the question must take a position on the issue and defend it, or speak not of it. We are all bound to enforce the law, rightly or wrongly, not swallow the subject in two-handed ambivalence.

Third, as a matter of textual analysis, there is no "right of self-defense" in the text of the Constitution, except as it may be contained in the Ninth Amendment. In the text we find a duty to defend the members of society, and that must include oneself. Self-defense is, constitutionally, derived from the militia duty.

Fourth, there only only a few things identified in the Constitution that may be "banned": treason, counterfeiting, piracy and felonies on the high seas, offenses against the laws of nations, arguably, violations of military discipline, deprivations of rights by state actors, enslavement, and impediment of the privilege of voting on certain grounds. That's all. The power to regulate, or promote, or tax, or spend, does not imply a power to forbid, not withstanding that abomination Wickard v. Filburn.

So it is unconstitutional to ban assault weapons, not merely because they are "suitable for militia", because it is unconstitutional to ban anything not listed above, and weapons are not included among them. That may be an inconvenient truth of constitutional logic, but if we don't like it we should amend the Constitution.

The duty of a true scholar is to follow the evidence to wherever it may lead, to its logical conclusion, regardless of whether anyone else agrees or supports one's findings, regardless of the effect it might have on one's career.

I suspect that in the coming troubles bitter people are going to cling to their weapons as the god government fails them.
3.25.2009 10:23pm
Jon Roland (mail) (www):
Correction: Should be "probabilistic".
3.25.2009 11:31pm
Tim Torrent (mail) (www):
The problem with limiting the inquiry to minors is that in the revolutionary era, it was common for kids as young as 12 and 13 to own their own rifles. A number of red states do not prohibit minors from owning or possessing rifles (although selling to a minor usually is an offense) -- the idea is that the minor gets the rifle from their family, along with the necessary training to use it.

Along the same lines, you'll sometimes hear the anti-firearm argument claiming that the 2nd amendment only applies to the types of arms of our founding father's era -- namely slow firing rifles (bolt action, black powder, or lever action). But we don't accept this notion in any other constitutional right. For instance, free speech and free press do not only apply to soapboxing, newspapers, and pamphleting. Free speech is regularly observed as a collateral defense in 47 USC 230 (Internet) cases all the time. Meanwhile, we have the abolition of the fairness doctrine on radio on free speech and free press grounds despite radio not coming about until the early 1900s. Copyright covers itunes sales, while trademark law prevents someone from squatting the domain name of your company. Likewise, due process extends to searches of your hard drive, and I guarantee you that neither Madison nor Jefferson were "gettin a Dell."

But even if this era limitation actually had some merit, Clinton's assault weapons ban dinged purchasers/manufacturers/sellers for having a bayonet lug on a semiautomatic rifle. Bayonets were very common in our founding father's era. It only follows that under this era limitation argument, bayonets should be a fundamental right.

The moral of these three points is that they show just how ridiculous the era limitation argument is. In all rights of the constitution (and amendments thereof) citizens get the benefit of intentions of the era, and nothing limits citizen's rights based on the technology of the era. Firearm rights are no different.

As for the purpose of the second amendment, Dr. Suzanna Gratia Hupp, appearing before Representative Charles Schumer's committee hearings on the assault weapons ban, correctly stated,
The Second Amendment is not about duck hunting, and I know I'm not going to make very many friends saying this, but it's about our right, all of our right to be able to protect ourselves from all of you guys up there.

The second amendment explicitly provides us with a right of self defense, but it's not against petty criminals -- it's against our own congressmen, our own judges, and our own president and his subordinates.
3.26.2009 11:52am
ReaderY:
Given that states have long had the discretion to determine an appropriate age of majority and could potentially set a higher age for local-election voting, marriage, or contracts, and in fact do so for alcohol and a number of other matters, I don't see how there could be any constitutional issue about an age of majority for firearms that's within the range of ages historically accepted as appropriate.

The constitution provides an age of majority of 18 for one manner and one matter only, voting in federal elections. This in no way implies that 18 has any special constitutional status for any other purpose.
3.27.2009 2:00am
David McCourt (mail):
Tim Torrent, the second half of your argument seems to undercut the first half: if the reasons behind the right to bear arms are republican ones -- the ability to resist foreign oppression or domestic tyranny -- then the right would by definition under classic republican political theory be held only by those who "own" the polity, in England, gentlemen, in the U.S., citizens. That colonial era children may have, with their parents' permission, used guns, does not mean that they had the "right to bear arms." If they did, could they have asserted the right against their parents' will? (shades of Hillary having counsel for children sue their parents).

This does not mean that a legislature could not extend to minors the privilege to use guns -- with their parents' consent -- or just to acquiesce in such use without legislation. It just means that, consitutionally, minors have no such right.
3.27.2009 9:32pm

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