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McCain Talking to Palin:

A very funny video, via Ann Althouse.

metro1 (mail) (www):
I'm not sure who Sarah Palin reminds me of more:

Annie Oakley: see, e.g., here.

Or a Horatio Alger story: see, e.g., here and here.
9.3.2008 2:41pm
PC:
I smell a fake. That American flag has too many stripes.
9.3.2008 2:58pm
Sarcastro (www):
metro1 you're wrong. She's Ronald Reagan, risen again!
9.3.2008 3:10pm
Houston Lawyer:
Very good, but I prefer the one where McCain sings Streisand, and no I don't have a link.
9.3.2008 3:11pm
Anonymous #000:
I like the comparison to Peggy Hill, and that actress hits it just right.
9.3.2008 3:21pm
Anonymous #000:
Sarcastro: bite your tongue, or he'll bite your brain.
9.3.2008 3:25pm
Hoosier:
The Peggy Hill comparaison works for the voice. But there's a character actress who sounds even more like her. And because she's a character actress, I have no idea who she is. I think she played the secretary of "Ferris Buehler's Day Off," if that's any help.
9.3.2008 3:26pm
Hoosier:
Anonymous:

See, this is why the web is such a pain. People like you spreading myths. About zombies:

www.fvza.org/zmyths.html
9.3.2008 3:28pm
Something Wicked:
Palin reminds me of Police Chief Marge Gunderson.

9.3.2008 3:31pm
Jon Roland (mail) (www):
Priceless! I see the actors in this video getting a regular gig on Saturday Night Live if McCain-Palin wins. Both lend themselves well to satire, and it will be a feeding frenzy for the comedians.

Then of course there will have to be a movie. But who could play Palin? Obviously, she will have to play herself.

I estimate that the Palin Pick has already brought McCain and the Republican Party at least $300 million in free publicity, more than enough to offset their trailing position in fundraising. She has overshadowed McCain and Biden, and threatens to overshadow Obama. Six days after her debut, she is still drawing most of the attention. Even Hurricane Gustav couldn't compete with her.

I suspect the ratings for the Palin-Biden debate will be greater than those for the McCain-Obama debates. No one expects to be surprised by the latter, but everyone is going to see what she does to Biden. She will go into the debate cool asnd poised. Biden is going to be sweating.

If this attention continues through November 4, history may decide that the real winner in this election was Palin. No matter what the outcome, she wins.
9.3.2008 3:31pm
Something Wicked:
9.3.2008 3:32pm
Ninja Zombie (mail):
Sarcastro: No, you are wrong. She is Chuck Norris, reincarnated and transferred to a new body, and sent back in time to save us from Obama (or "Lord of Darkness", as he is known in the future).
9.3.2008 3:35pm
Old cranky lady:
Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper &Trig.

Sounds more like Alaskan sled dog pack.
9.3.2008 3:37pm
Sarcastro (www):
[Ninja Zombie

Obama (or "Lord of Darkness", as he is known in the future).


Awesome! And I'd thought I'd heard them all!]
9.3.2008 3:39pm
Mahan Atma (mail):
9.3.2008 3:40pm
rarango (mail):
Sarcastro: shouldnt he be the lord of insufficient light? (Sorry Scott Adams)
9.3.2008 3:42pm
jukeboxgrad (mail):
That voicemail is awesome. Even funnier than the very funny video. McCain has given us comedy gold. It's just getting started.
9.3.2008 3:46pm
metro1 (mail) (www):
Here's a detailed analysis of Joe Biden and his history of repeated incidents of plagiarism.

Mainstream press: Hello? Don't you think this is pretty relevant to his fitness for the offices of Vice-President or President?

Here's more from Justice Clarence Thomas on Joe Biden's dishonesty.
9.3.2008 3:53pm
jukeboxgrad (mail):
"If this attention continues through November 4, history may decide that the real winner in this election was Palin. No matter what the outcome, she wins."

I think the whole family could be headed for a reality show. Seriously. You heard it here first.

There will even be a part for Wooten, with all his various kids from various marriages. I kid you not.

The merchandise promotions will include toy Tasers. All kinds of moose stuff. Little toy police cars with cops holding little toy beer cans. Snow machines. Guns. You name it. A replica of the Wasilla City Hall. Miss Wasilla Beauty Pageant outfits for the girls. The sky is the limit.
9.3.2008 3:55pm
Anderson (mail):
"Obama, lord of darkness" gets about 879,000 google hits -- though not as a phrase.
9.3.2008 3:57pm
PC:
"Obama, lord of darkness" gets about 879,000 google hits


In all fairness, Obama wanted "Prince of Darkness," but Robert Novak threatened to sue for trademark infringement.
9.3.2008 4:00pm
David Warner:
"She is Chuck Norris"

Chuck Norris wishes.
9.3.2008 4:10pm
MLS:
Great satire...sure to see something like it on SNL, along with an Obama/Biden counterpart.
9.3.2008 4:12pm
metro1 (mail) (www):
Here's my attempt to explain the Sarah Palin phenomenon to a close friend of mine - who happens to be liberal:

* * *

I know that, to Democrats, the Palin pick is a head-scratcher.

The reason she's electrified the conservative base is for the simple reason that she is a true libertarian conservative on issues. And, let's be honest, she has a dynamic personality and speaking style. (I understand, of course, that if you dislike a candidate's politics, their "dynamic speaking style" will leave you cold - that's true for me with Obama anyway). And, while we're being honest - it certainly doesn't hurt that she's hot.

There's more to it than that, however. She has a genuineness and freshness that is appealing to conservatives. The fact that she's been hunting and fishing and played sports and had 5 kids - all while holding a series of progressively more responsible public offices is very impressive. (That's the head-scratcher to consevatives: she is exactly the kind of candidate we'd expect women to stand up for and cheer: she didn't do it on anyone's coat-tails, she did it on her own).

Also: she beat the sitting Governor of Alaska (Murkowski) in the GOP primary - and then went on to beat a former Governor (Knowles) in the general election. That's very impressive. Her popularity rating in Alaska has hovered between 80-90%. That's impressive too.

The "experience" or "not ready to be President" arguments are the ones that really mystify me (and conservatives). Palin has more years in public office (by 5 years) than Obama. She has executive experience in government - he does not. The plurality of our Presidents have been Governors. If Palin is not qualified to be President then neither were Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, FDR or Teddy Roosevelt.

(Also - to look at it from McCain's point of view - which is very different from my point of view - I think he honestly sees her as a kindred spirit in the "shake up the establishment" model).

Those are the basic arguments.

* * *
9.3.2008 4:20pm
Zombie Reagan:
metro1, are you trying to dial up the serious on this thread? That's not the way Zombie Reagan rolls. I'll leave it to my colleague Headless Body of Spiro Agnew to explain:


9.3.2008 4:27pm
Hoosier:
David Warner

The link had me until Schroedinger's Palin. But doesn't the number of Palins still alive depend on whether they are being observed?
9.3.2008 4:48pm
rarango (mail):
Agree with Metro.
The Palin pick was designed to fire up the base and shore up McCain support among conservatives who don't trust him. And it appears to be working, aided by the Democrats and some in the MSM. The best the dems could have done was yawn and say ho hum. Their assaults are firing up the base beyond all expectation. If McCain can peel off a few disgruntled Hillaryites so much the better. And you also have two politicians who have some sort of claim on "reform" although I think I think McCain has been around too long to be much of a reformer.

And the video was hilarious
9.3.2008 4:48pm
Clastrenster:
Gov. Palin, who isn't running for president, is also not a libertarian unless you evacuate the concept of every conceivable shred of meaning. Rather, Gov. Palin is a Christian social interventionist with a desire to do the best for those who share her religious views, and with no serious engagement one way or another for those who do not. This is, interestingly, entirely unlike the old McCain (who will be bursting out from time to time, no doubt).
9.3.2008 4:52pm
Zombie Reagan:
and with no serious engagement one way or another for those who do not

Lies. Under a complete and total Palin regime, Zombie Reagan would have much fewer fetus brains to eat.
9.3.2008 4:57pm
Clastrenster:
No. But why? Because the Palin regime would likely act to modulate genetic expression, not increase protein inventory.
9.3.2008 5:02pm
Anonymous #000:
I think we're losing sight of the real issue: she activates our base!
9.3.2008 5:06pm
Uh_Clem (mail):
The reason she's electrified the conservative base is for the simple reason that she is a true libertarian conservative on issues.

A libertarian? Really?

So when she tried to ban certain books from the Wasilla public library that was a "libertarian" act? And when she tried to fire the librarian when the librarian rufused pledged to "resist all efforts at censorship", that was a "libertarian" act?

Or when she hired a lobbyist to go to Washington to angle for earmarks for her city, eventually bringing back ~ $20M for a town of about 5k people, that was "libertarian"?

Or when as governor she raised taxes on the oil companies and distributed the revenue to individual citizens of Alaska, that was "libertarian"?

"libertarian" - you keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means.
9.3.2008 5:07pm
interested:
Uh_Clem: which books?
9.3.2008 5:14pm
Hey Skipper (mail) (www):
Clastrenstr:

Gov. Palin is a Christian social interventionist with a desire to do the best for those who share her religious views, and with no serious engagement one way or another for those who do not.

Perhaps alone among posters here, I actually live in Alaska.

That sentence doesn't even have a passing acquaintance with reality.
9.3.2008 5:15pm
Uh_Clem (mail):
The article didn't say which books she tried to ban.

Does it matter?
9.3.2008 5:17pm
PC:
The article didn't say which books she tried to ban.

Does it matter?


Of course it matters. Some books are good and some bad and we need to have the government tell us which books are which! I hope Palin brings those libertarian sensibilities to federal government.
9.3.2008 5:23pm
Clastrenster:
"Perhaps alone among posters here, I actually live in Alaska.

That sentence doesn't even have a passing acquaintance with reality."

You could be right; it's hard for me to say.
9.3.2008 5:24pm
Hoosier:
Books. Palin.

Are we talking "libertarian" or "librarian." Because I have this fanatsy about Palin as the latter . . .
9.3.2008 5:29pm
Clastrenster:
Hi Hey Skipper,

I glossed over your complaint. You could be right about that, too, but there's not a single aspect of Gov. Palin's governing outlook that seems "libertarian" to me, and quite a lot that appears pro-natalist, etc (with no apparent engagement with those opposing her).

Clstrstnr
9.3.2008 5:34pm
interested:
Uh_Clem: other 1st world countries ban books for the good of their citizens. do they have better reasons or worse than palin's hypothetical bans?
9.3.2008 5:40pm
hattio1:
Hey Skipper,
I also live in Alaska. The sentence in question wasn't that accurate...but more so than calling her a libertarian conservative.
9.3.2008 5:46pm
SATA_Interface:
That webcomic link was great.
9.3.2008 5:46pm
Clastrenster:
Following hattio1,

It seems like one of the aspects of the sentence in question was pretty much dead on, while the other was rhetoric that, while open to some interpretation, is a bit over-stated. I've really got to work on that while also trying to squeeze in some time to overcome homosexuality. In a way, it's even possible the entire statement was exactly accurate come to think of it, though if so it would have been a wild stab in the factual dark.
9.3.2008 5:55pm
Smokey:
metro1's second link really opened my eyes to how verminous and disreputable Biden is. I knew he was an intellectual property thief, but this...
[Clarence Thomas]: Senator Biden was the first questioner. Instead of the softball questions he'd promised to ask, he threw a beanball straight at my head, quoting from a speech that I'd given four years earlier at the Pacific Legal Foundation and challenging me to defend what I'd said: " 'I find attractive the arguments of scholars such as Stephen Macedo, who defend an activist Supreme Court that would . . . strike down laws restricting property rights.' " That caught me off guard, and I had no recollection of making so atypical a statement, which shook me up even more. "Now, it would seem to me what you were talking about," Senator Biden went on to say, "is you find attractive the fact that they are activists and they would like to strike down existing laws that impact on restricting the use of property rights, because you know, that is what they write about."

Since I didn't remember making the statement in the first place, I didn't know how to respond to it. All I could say in reply was that "it has been quite some time since I have read Professor Macedo. . . . But I don't believe that in my writings I have indicated that we should have an activist Supreme Court or that we should have any form of activism on the Supreme Court." It was, I knew, a weak answer. Fortunately, though, the young lawyers who had helped prepare me for the hearings had loaded all of my speeches into a computer, and at the first break in the proceedings they looked this one up. The senator, they found, had wrenched my words out of context. I looked at the text of my speech and saw that the passage he'd read out loud had been immediately followed by two other sentences: "But the libertarian argument overlooks the place of the Supreme Court in a scheme of separation of powers. One does not strengthen self-government and the rule of law by having the non-democratic branch of the government make policy." The point I'd been making was the opposite of the one that Senator Biden claimed I had made.
Biden: Thief. Liar. Whatta guy...

...NOT.
9.3.2008 6:00pm
interested:
9.3.2008 6:17pm
Uh_Clem (mail):
other 1st world countries ban books for the good of their citizens. do they have better reasons or worse than palin's hypothetical bans?

What other countries do has no bearing on whether Palin is a libertarian. She ain't. Capice?
9.3.2008 6:19pm
interested:
i didn't claim she's a librarian.
9.3.2008 6:22pm
Clastrenster:
ooo, but a banned librarian, perhaps?
9.3.2008 6:25pm
PC:
Here's another hilarious video featuring Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy, live and uncensored.
9.3.2008 6:29pm
Goobermunch:
metro1:

I think a part of the controversy about Ms. Palin is that there is a subtle anti-Alaska bias. I recently saw a screed against her written by a Bryn Mawr graduate who lives in Alaska. The venom this lady had for the people of Alaska left me scratching my head and wondering why she chooses to live there.

I grew up in Alaska and am a Democrat. I am not a fan of McCain, and his selection of Ms. Palin as running mate doesn't make me more likely to vote for him. But I do think that the national politicians who are criticizing her are doing so out of a mistaken belief that Alaska is not a political state. They seem to be assuming she is not qualified because she's from "too far outside the beltway." I think underestimating Ms. Palin could be a big mistake. We'll know pretty soon whether it is.

--G
9.3.2008 6:59pm
Hey Skipper (mail) (www):
Clastrenstr:

When I re-read what I had written, the own goal leapt right off the screen. Why does it never do that before I hit "post"?

I wouldn't call her libertarian, but she seems to have done a reasonable job of separating her personal beliefs from her governing philosophy.

I say this as someone who liked Hitchen's "God is not Great".
9.4.2008 2:31am
jukeboxgrad (mail):
interested:

no books were banned


A pretty detailed account is here. It seems that at the very least Palin tried, and then fired the person who got in her way.
9.4.2008 5:14pm
not interested so much any more:
banned from the library, not from sale
9.4.2008 6:01pm
jukeboxgrad (mail):
"banned from the library" is exactly the way it was described the very first time the issue was mentioned in this thread (9/3, 4:07 pm). So I don't know how you would end up confused about that.

And is banning library books OK with you? Just curious.

I have a feeling that the campaign is not going to rely on the defense you're floating.
9.5.2008 3:08am
not interested at all:
the library is a corporatist monopoly headed by privacy dunces, it shouldn't exist, kill it any way possible. it doesn't make words unavailable.

i don't defend anybody/
9.5.2008 9:52am