Can Congress Suspend Habeas in Guantanamo?

In his post below, Orin suggests that if Congress were to object to the Court's Boumediene decision, it could "formally suspend the Writ as it applies to Guantanamo Bay" under the Constitution's Suspension Clause. I am not so sure.

The Suspension Clause provides that "[t]he Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." This language seems to impose two separate conditions on the use of the clause: 1) "Rebellion or Invasion" and 2) "public Safety." Assuming, for the sake of argument, that these requirements are justiciable (an assumption I don't necessarily accept) what showing would the government have to make? Would Guantanamo itself have to be invaded or subject to a rebellion? Or would a rebellion or invasion somewhere else suffice? Even if not justiciable, the application of these requirements to Guantanamo seems problematic at a conceptual level. And insofar as Boumediene could be used support the application of the Suspension Clause's requirements to other territories outside of the de jure sovereignty of the United States, it seems to me that the conceptual problems would only increase. Am I missing something?

Trevor Morrison (mail):
Note, fwiw, that there was a nationwide suspension (subject to a number of statutorily specified conditions) during the Civil War. It's hard to see how a rebellion or invasion was actively underway at the time in the northernmost states.
6.12.2008 10:14pm
MarkField (mail):
In Ex Parte Milligan, the Court rejected trial by military commission when the civil courts were open. It doesn't take much extension of that argument to conclude that Gitmo is not subject to any disruption of the ordinary course of proceedings.
6.12.2008 10:18pm
PLR:
Am I missing something?

Not as far as I can see.
6.12.2008 10:57pm
OrinKerr:
Jonathan,

I wrote that Congress could suspend the writ, "subject to the possibility of judicial review of their assessment of the need for the suspension. " As a practical matter, doesn't it depend on whether the claims are justiciable, and if so, what the standard of review is?
6.12.2008 11:23pm
Kazinski:
It's just ridiculous that the Executive and Legislative branches could be brought to such straights that they would have to argue such a question. It is much more likely that the next case will be arguing the applicability of rule .303 to the detainees, now that they can no longer be held without a the convocation of a circus.
6.12.2008 11:30pm
DBW:
What you're missing is that the founder's obviously never envisaged Habeas Corpus applying to non-citizens captured and held outside of the US. Why would they create an exception for emergencies, that applied to US citizens in US territory, but leave the rights of non-citizens, outside the US, absolutely inviolable regardless of the degree of emergency.

The problem here is not that Orin is stretching the Suspension Clause, but that this ruling has obviously stretched the scope of Habeas Corpus beyond anything that was intended.
6.12.2008 11:30pm
CharleyCarp (mail):
IIRC, Justice Story called it unreviewable, in his commentaries.

I still think the public safety issue would have to be with relation to washington DC, and sppecifically, between those court rooms used by the DC Circuit -- where even the Bush Administration is prepared to see adjudication -- and those used by the district court. 6th floor or 4th. Big safety implications there.
6.12.2008 11:33pm
Larry Rosenthal (mail):
One plausible reading of Ex parte Milligan is that the writ may not be suspended in portions of the country in which there are no active hostilities and the civilian courts remain open. On that view, it seems clear that the writ could not be suspended for Guantanamo prisoners, given that there are no active hostilities in Guantanamo and the District of the District of Columbia remains open and available to hear habeas cases.

Larry Rosenthal
Chapman University School of Law
6.13.2008 12:01am
J. Aldridge:
I'd have to see the lease agreement with Cuba before I'd make a judgement call on this question.
6.13.2008 12:07am
Impeach Kennedy (mail):
Am I missing something?

Yes. You are forgetting to blame Justice Kennedy for the necessary incoherence of his view. It is now the case that under our Constitution noncitizens abroad have greater constitutional habeas rights than citizens who engage in rebellion or insurrection on American soil.
6.13.2008 12:23am
Displaced Midwesterner:

I wrote that Congress could suspend the writ, "subject to the possibility of judicial review of their assessment of the need for the suspension. " As a practical matter, doesn't it depend on whether the claims are justiciable, and if so, what the standard of review is?


In all likelihood, yes. And it is kind of sad that as a practical matter it turns on the issue of justiciability, not on whether the Constitution would actually allow such a suspension of the writ or not.

One of my main concerns with the whole treatment of the Gitmo situation has always been that it really is quite different from a traditional wartime detention scenario, but the Bush Administration insists on treating it as such. The very existene of the Gitmo detention system tends to demonstrate how unlike a typical battlefield, wartime system this is. But on the other hand, the Court's decisions have led to a shift from Gitmo to a reliance on Bagram in Afghanistan and possibly on another unacknowledged prison somewhere in Asia that I have heard hinted at in relatively non-public forums by some former officials. More than anything else, I think this whole series of fiascos and cases demonstrates a failure on the part of the political branches--bad cases make bad law, but so do bad decisions by the political branches. The executive, and to a lesser extent Congress, have been keen to really press an unnecessarily extreme view, to the detriment of the rule of law and precedent. What we really need is for Congress and the executive to formulate a smart, rights respecting system that is sensitive to the new challenges we find ourselves facing.
6.13.2008 12:40am
Impeach Kennedy (mail):

The executive, and to a lesser extent Congress, have been keen to really press an unnecessarily extreme view, to the detriment of the rule of law and precedent.



No. The political branches have been following the law and Justice Kennedy and his gang have seen fit to change it to suit their political preferences. The disrespect Justice Kennedy has shown for Eisentrager and the legacy of Justice Jackson is outrageous.
6.13.2008 12:49am
Displaced Midwesterner:
The difference between the present situation and Eisentrager is substantial. Moreoever, the political branches have not been trying to follow the law so much as play as many lawyerly games of hair-splitting as they can, giving in to adverse rulings with only the most minimal of gestures. One would assume that the political branches, being, well, political, would be more sensitive to the broader ramifications and would see how utterly unnecessary this whole series of games has been. That has not been the case. Instead they have behaved like petulant little kids.
6.13.2008 1:26am
Impeach Kennedy (mail):
The difference between the present situation and Eisentrager is substantial. Moreoever, the political branches have not been trying to follow the law so much as play as many lawyerly games of hair-splitting as they can, giving in to adverse rulings with only the most minimal of gestures.

That isn't true at all. The political branches adhered to Hamdi. That isn't game-playing. Eisentrager is directly applicable, and Kennedy totally distorted it to conjure up a "functional" test that exists nowhere in the precedent and has no basis other than Kennedy's imagination.
6.13.2008 1:33am
Reg (mail):
I'm confused. What's the test for determining which constitutional rights enemy combatants have? Is it combatants who are on territory under "de facto" control by the US have US constitutional rights?

So can they bring takings claims if the US requisitions their property? If they are detained without Miranda warnings, does the exclusionary rule apply to their detention hearing? How about speedy trial rights? Do they get those? Why not Bivens?

I don't know how to read the constitution so enemy combatants captured by our military get habeas rights, but no other constitutional rights.
6.13.2008 1:55am
Impeach Kennedy (mail):

I don't know how to read the constitution so enemy combatants captured by our military get habeas rights, but no other constitutional rights.



That's why it makes no sense.
6.13.2008 2:05am
Kazinski:
To think just a few weeks ago we were laughing at the Brits for refusing to detain pirates around the Horn of Africa, because they were worried about violating their human rights. Well now we can laugh at ourselves, because we are at exactly the same place.

I wonder when the other shoe is going to drop and a federal judge is going to make us offer asylum to the terrorists that get released. Its coming.
6.13.2008 3:35am
Ricardo (mail):
I wonder when the other shoe is going to drop and a federal judge is going to make us offer asylum to the terrorists that get released. Its coming.

I'm not sure if people in Guantanamo can make asylum claims to get visas to the U.S. Isn't that one of the reasons why Haitians and Kosovo refugees were sent there in the 1990s?

On the other hand, we now know that some detained in the past were factually innocent of any wrong-doing. It may well still be the case that some of the remaining detainees are also innocent of any wrong-doing. Some may have also gotten to Gitmo because they offended the wrong warlord in Afghanistan or the wrong Pakistani ISI operative.

We really don't know but if it turns out we've been doing the dirty work for such sordid characters and thugs in some cases, would an asylum claim really be so out of the question?
6.13.2008 3:54am
A. Zarkov (mail):
Perhaps it's time to think the unthinkable. SCOTUS has exceeded its authority. As a practical matter the president can defy the Supreme Court and there's nothing they can do about it. If Congress sides with the president and refuses to remove him for office for defying the court, the sun has set on SCOTUS. This might seem like a loony idea now, but wait and one day you might feel differently.
6.13.2008 6:48am
FantasiaWHT:
From a literalist point of view, where does it say the rebellion or invasion has to be in the US? We're invading Iraq and Afghanistan, more or less, and dealing with rebellions in both places.
6.13.2008 9:12am
EllisDees:
I think you're misreading it. Only in cases of rebellion or invasion can the writ be suspended, for the public safety. Since we have neither of those, I can't see how it would be legal.
6.13.2008 9:17am
Displaced Midwesterner:

Perhaps it's time to think the unthinkable. SCOTUS has exceeded its authority. As a practical matter the president can defy the Supreme Court and there's nothing they can do about it. If Congress sides with the president and refuses to remove him for office for defying the court, the sun has set on SCOTUS. This might seem like a loony idea now, but wait and one day you might feel differently.


There is something appropriate about trying to provoke a constitutional crisis over a decision that has negligible practical effect (Justice Chicken Little's dissent is rather unconvincing on this point). The Court has decided a case about habeas corpus--surely the most unjusticiable thing imaginable! And they have said we have to go through a little more legal song and dance on the way to doing what we have been doing! Truly the decision that will be remembered as the one where the Court hijacked the course of history.

Really, the upshot of this is that there will continue to be more lawyers employed to do Gitmo work. Think of it as the "Would-Be National Security Lawyer Employment Case."
6.13.2008 9:43am
Richard Aubrey (mail):
Displaced. I think of it as Lynn Stewart-as-pardoned-by-Obama fishing through warehouses of classified documents.
Or her clones (shudder).
But, to comfort myself, I can imagine it's already happening and this isn't going to make it worse.
6.13.2008 11:28am
Sarcastro (www):
Jeez, why doesn't Kennedy just go up to each American and kill them one by one? Cause that's totally what this decision does. These 400 guys are like a knife in Mamma's apple pie.

And Eisentraiger is good law! Rasul v. Bush didn't happen in my America.
6.13.2008 1:09pm