FantasiaWHT:
Ok, I'll start.

Greek (Greek Style, Greeking, etc.) - anal intercourse

http://www.uta.fi/FAST/GC/sex-scat.html

Under the heading "Anal Intercourse"
8.6.2007 7:13pm
djh5:
Well, there's Greek , French kissing , flagellation "le vice anglais , Russian "Russian : Simulated intercourse with the penis between the woman's breasts"
8.6.2007 7:14pm
Visitor Again:
On a more universal note, what about "around the world?"
8.6.2007 7:31pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
djh5: Wow! I knew about Greek and French, but the English and Russian examples are news to me. Further evidence, I think, of how these terms often remain long after the animosities or scandals that created them are forgotten.

But the one I had in mind is even odder, I think, especially since the term is quite familiar, and most people probably don't even recognize the ethnic link.
8.6.2007 7:33pm
Visitor Again:
French letter.
8.6.2007 7:36pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
Visitor Again: That's not a sexual practice as such.
8.6.2007 7:37pm
Luis (mail) (www):
Missionary position?
8.6.2007 7:45pm
neurodoc:
Another not "a sexual practice as such" but related, the legendary cantharide "Spanish fly." And how about Canadian...oh too vile even to allude to.

[BTW, EV, what scholarly issue prompted this question?]
8.6.2007 7:45pm
Luis (mail) (www):
Whoops, not missionary position:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_215.html

Newer than I thought, I guess. Damn Sixties hipsters.
8.6.2007 7:47pm
Tony Tutins (mail):
Probably not correct, but my 1993 Chambers Dictionary lists "soixante-neuf" for the 69 position.
8.6.2007 7:49pm
YuJin:
In Chinese, French kissing is called "American kissing". Fyi
8.6.2007 7:52pm
Nikki:
In medieval letters I've encountered anal sex referred to as "the Italian vice" or "after the Italian manner." The Italians, of course, called it after some other nationality, but I forget which one.
8.6.2007 10:36pm
Smokey:
''Dirty Sanchez.''

Sorry, but I'm too embarrassed to give the definition. Not my cup o' tea anyway. You can google it.
8.6.2007 10:46pm
John Burgess (mail) (www):
In one of his innumerable footnotes to the 16 volume 'Thousand and One Nights', Richard Burton alludes to the 'Albanian'. This is a form of autoerotic behavior in which the male member (euphemism for the filter's sake) is clamped between the guy's own ankles. Rocking back and forth is involved. Afraid I can't give the citation or, for that matter, whether it was an English or Latin footnote.
8.6.2007 10:46pm
neurodoc:
"French pox" for syphilis. And then the French call it the "English disease," and still others credit it to still others. May not be ASPAS ("a sexual practice as such"), but almost always sexually contracted (congenital infection is about as removed from sex as it ever gets), hence an STD (sexually transmitted disease).
8.6.2007 10:47pm
David Matthews (mail):
There are the obvious "sodomy" and "lesbianism" but I don't think that Sodom or Lesbos were large enough political units to qualify as "nationalities."
8.6.2007 10:49pm
Michelle Dulak Thomson (mail):
Eugene, do you by any chance mean "bugger"?
8.6.2007 10:52pm
wm13:
I would guess that Prof. Volokh is thinking of "bugger" (cognate with Bulgarian). Incidentally, when I was a teenager, "frenching" was a perfectly respectable verb (or participle), although "French kissing" may be slightly more standard English.

No links or cites, certainly not for the second point, which is based on my perspective as a native speaker.

Harking back a week or so, "Lesbian" was once a nationality, though I guess it isn't now.
8.6.2007 10:56pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
David Matthews: Yup, that was my view.
8.6.2007 10:57pm
David Matthews (mail):
"Bugger" seems to be the winner (others -- I was going to say "beat me to it" but maybe in a thread of double entendre's that's a bad phraseology):

Link
8.6.2007 11:00pm
Little Loca (mail):
Wow, we are starting to repeat ourselves:

http://volokh.com/posts/1150257960.shtml
8.6.2007 11:19pm
neurodoc:
There are the obvious "sodomy" and "lesbianism" but I don't think that Sodom or Lesbos were large enough political units to qualify as "nationalities."
Doesn't "ethnicities" extend the possibilities beyond "nationalities"? And what about those sexual practices said by outsiders or detractors to characterize a particular group and locale (e.g., girls from a certain city in Italy, or sailors going to sea from Barranquilla, Colombia), which are most unlikely to be found in any dictionary, even a slang one, or other authoritative source, but which would be affirmed by those familiar with the area. (In Colombia, people carry the stereotype of the region from which they come, some flattering, e.g., the most beautiful Colombian women are supposedly those of Cali, some not so flattering, e.g., the friendly people of Pasto made the butt of many jokes.)

Is this contest over? Did it end, appropriately enough, with "to bugger"? (That is Bulgarian in derivation?! EV, we know that your interests are notably catholic, but where and how pray tell did you acquire this knowledge?)

NPR broadcasts a program The World, which regularly throws out geographical puzzlers, then gives the answers later in the program. Does anyone think they would be interested in the above as possible Q&As, "what country is known for this particular sexual practice (fill in the practice, describing it in suitably clinical terms, and there is always one, no matter how bizarre the practice)."

How nice that this isn't another narrowly focused, boring legal blog. But then the law does encompass much, doesn't it.
8.6.2007 11:29pm
neurodoc:
"Omanism," a practice said to have originated in Oman, held to be an abomination by the ancient Hebrews (the Bible), but viewed more understandingly by the modern ones (Portnoy's Complaint).
8.6.2007 11:56pm
Mark Field (mail):

"Omanism," a practice said to have originated in Oman, held to be an abomination by the ancient Hebrews (the Bible), but viewed more understandingly by the modern ones (Portnoy's Complaint).


Heh.
8.7.2007 12:00am
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
I already mentioned one of these in the Lesbos thread, but ancient Greek had at least three ethnic-sexual verbs. Lesbizein, "to act like a Lesbian" (in the geographic sense) meant fellatio (heterosexual only, as far as I can tell). Phrygizein, "to act like a Phrygian", i.e. a pre-Turk inhabitant of northwestern Turkey, the area around Troy, meant masturbation. And syrizein, "to act like a Syrian", meant anal sex.

I believe there's at least one mythical sexual practice, alluded to in "Mexican Pete", by Robert Conquest. I don't believe it's ever been published, but Kingsley Amis somewhere quotes six lines that I have (quite unintentionally) committed to memory:

"If you wish to read
of each foul misdeed
Pete performed on his way through college,
Just look up 'Mexican'
in the Oxford Lexicon
of Criminal Sexual Knowledge
."

At least I assume this is mythical. I've certainly never heard of 'Mexican' elsewhere as refernce to a particular sexual practice.

Finally, I think it may be Auberon Waugh who refers to 'the Italian position' in one of his novels. Again, this may be a mocking reference to no particular practice.
8.7.2007 12:01am
David Matthews (mail):
Getting farther afield, if you type in practically any ethnicity or nationality in the search window of the "Urban Dictionary" you'll find some sort of sexual reference:

eg: Brazilian

Danish (see definition 3)

Australian (see definition 9)

ad infinitum et ad nauseum
8.7.2007 12:05am
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
It's Onanism, not Omanism, and has nothing to do with the modern country of (Muscat and) Oman. Onan was a character in the Bible, who "spilled his seed upon the ground", i.e. practiced the withdrawal method of birth control, because (as I recall) he didn't want to father his deceased brother's children with the widow as required by Jewish law. (Others can correct me on this if I'm wrong on the details.)

Onan is also (or was in the 1970s) a brand of gas-powered electrical generator, which is rather ironic considering how opposed the Biblical Onan was to generation. My employer back then had a couple of Onan generators in trucks we used to measure air pollution. One of them in a modified GM motor home had a bad habit of blowing its gaskets. One day we came out from a lunch break, saw a puddle of oil under the vehicle in the restaurant parking lot, and someone said "Looks like old Onan's gone and 'spilled his oil upon the ground'". Half the employees thought that was hilarious and the other half said "Huh?". It was one of the few times anyone could ever tell who had had a religious upbrining and who hadn't.
8.7.2007 12:10am
David Matthews (mail):
neurodoc:

I like your idea for a new geography quiz for "The World." I can hear that music playing in the background, along with the host, saying "Have you guessed it yet? It's Bulgaria...."
8.7.2007 12:11am
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
There's one more word that looks like a sexual-geographic epithet, but isn't. Etymologically, 'gonorrhea' is running or dripping or flowing ('rhe-' as in 'logorrhea' and 'rheostat') of the gonads. Through the centuries, it has often been misspelled 'gomorrhea' by people who must have thought it was named after Sodom's sister-city of Gomorrha.
8.7.2007 12:14am
David Matthews (mail):
"host, saying"

Woops, got an extra comma in there. The host wouldn't be playing in the background, nor would the music be "saying."
8.7.2007 12:24am
neurodoc:
It's Onanism, not Omanism, and has nothing to do with the modern country of (Muscat and) Oman.
Sorry, I thought I signaled that the intention was Iran-y.
8.7.2007 12:26am
Eugene Volokh (www):
Michelle Dulak Thompson, wm13: You got it. Who'd have thunk it?

Little Loca: After Walt Whitman: "Do I repeat myself? Very well then, I repeat myself. I am large, I contain multitudes. Of the same thing." And note that it took a bunch of comments to get the answer; as I had imagined, people had forgotten (or the readership had largely turned over since then).
8.7.2007 12:28am
Visitor Again:
Visitor Again: That's not a sexual practice as such.

Gee, Eugene, thanks so much for instructing this 63-year-old on what a sexual practice is. Why not peel back the pedantry a bit and let us have a bit of fun.

By the way, I think if using a dildo is a sexual practice, so is using a French letter (prophylactic). In fact, some condoms even have allegedly pleasure-increasing features.

Stay away from those Tijuana specials.
8.7.2007 12:30am
albert mason:
The Persian Positian.

This refers to the Iranian (and indeed, with all due respect, most Arab) males' proclivities toward buggery.

I'm told that this has been popular for millenia, particularly amongst the merchant class who, in league with like-minded religious figures, ousted the self-described King of Kings.

Without being too graphic, which oriface is most offensive in the desert when there is no water available?
8.7.2007 12:53am
DonBoy (mail) (www):
(or the readership had largely turned over since then).

Well, we'd have to, to get properly Lancastered.
8.7.2007 12:56am
PeteRR (mail):
How about Arabian Goggles
http://www.stickykeys.org/dict1/index.html
Link is definitely not safe for work, but it is amusing.
8.7.2007 1:00am
eddy:
I'm not certain if the custom has changed, but at one time the rumor was that the way to separate the men from the boys in the Greek army was with a crowbar.
8.7.2007 1:02am
neurodoc:

"If you wish to read
of each foul misdeed
...
Disallowed!

If limericks were to be recognized here, the challenge would have to be to name "an ethnicity or nationality that has never been maliciously linked with a singular sexual practice." In The Limerick, edited by G. Legman (1964, Bell Publishing Co, New York), on almost every page there are ones by "anonymous" that relate to sexual variation in almost every place on earth. Aix, Antigua, Australia, Bagdad [sic], Bangkok, Benares, Bengal, Bombay, the Bronx, Calcutta...and on and on. Havana, perhaps deservedly (pre-Castro), was the subject of three. Nothing about Oman, but Legman did include a ditty about an "eccentric from Mecca" and a "young girl from Medina" who did things with their private parts that are beyond the scope of even this intellectually far-ranging blog. (Aden, Algiers, Iraq, Beirut, Tobruk, Turkey...)
8.7.2007 1:12am
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
Mexican Pete is not a limerick, either in meter or in length.
8.7.2007 1:22am
neurodoc:
Hmmm, have women contributed anything to this thread? Is it an entirely "guy" thing?

(Oh, I failed to mention that Legman had only 2 for Texas, but 7(!) for Dallas, including one about "a team playing baseball in Dallas," which if it did not trace to 1946 might have been about George W.'s Texas Rangers.)
8.7.2007 1:30am
dearieme:
I had thought that "bugger" was from 'Bogomil' - a religous sect - rather than Bulgarian. Are you chaps quite confident in your Bulgarphobia?
8.7.2007 2:18am
Carolina:
For what it's worth, my shorter OED says the roots of "buggery" are "buggarie" (Middle Dutch) and "bougrerie" (Old Fremch). No reference to any places, though I don't speak Middle Dutch or Old French and perhaps those words refer in some way to places.
8.7.2007 2:50am
Eugene Volokh (www):
From the OED: "[a. F. bougre:L. Bulgarus Bulgarian, a name given to a sect of heretics who came from Bulgaria in the 11th c., afterwards to other ‘heretics’ (to whom abominable practices were ascribed), also to usurers. See BOUGRE.] "
8.7.2007 2:58am
Eugene Volokh (www):
While we're at it, here's one definition from the OED entry on the noun "bugger":
One who commits buggery; a sodomite. In decent use only as a legal term.
Somehow I just found the "In decent use only as a legal term" to be funny (not to say mistaken, just funny).
8.7.2007 3:00am
Carolina:
My puny shorter OED is trumped by Prof. Volokh's full-length one. I bow my head in defeat.
8.7.2007 3:04am
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
neurodoc asks whether women have contributed at all to this thread. The first winner is named 'Michelle', so the answer is that at least one has contributed more usefully than any of the men. Maybe two, since wm13's gender is quite opaque.

On the other hand, two women have also contributed the only worse than useless comments to this thread. Apparently the bell curve for women is wider than that for men when it comes to sexual-ethnic etymologies and related humor. Of course, I may be wrong in assuming that Little Loca and Revonna LaSchatze are not men impersonating women. Not much chance of that in the second case, given the grotesque ignorance revealed in the first sentence, and the irony that her comment is filthier than any of the others so far.
8.7.2007 8:52am
DeezRightWingNutz:
Roman Helmet
Mexican Potato Chip
Is Clevlander an ethnicity?

I'd provide links but can't from this computer.
8.7.2007 10:08am
DeezRightWingNutz:
Oops, not perjorative, although widely disdained, no doubt.
8.7.2007 10:09am
DeezRightWingNutz:
Oh, and I think it's "Chili dog" not "Chile dog," but I'd have to check to make sure.
8.7.2007 10:11am
Randy R. (mail):
I always thought that the "Greek vice" was any sort of same sex coupling.
8.7.2007 11:15am
Bpbatista (mail):
What's the Greek Army's motto? "Never leave your buddy's behind."
8.7.2007 11:26am
markm (mail):
I don't know how Eugene found the Bulgarian connection, but I deduced it from the footnotes in my copy of Candide, for a college class long ago. Voltaire had been expelled from Frederick the Great's court for implying that this Prussian king sodomized boys. So once safe in Paris, he doubled the insult. In the story, he introduced the "Bulgarian" army, which was clearly a pseudonym for Prussian - a private couldn't actually become an officer in any other army merely by demonstrating that he knew the Prussian arms drill, but their organization and drill was almost that admired by the rest of the world. According to the footnotes, "Bulgarian" was 18th Century French slang for "pervert", after some immigrant to France that had managed to shock even Parisian sophisticates - and this army raped boys.

Finally, since the French word Voltaire used for "Bulgarian" must have been pronounced very much like "bugger", I deduce that it must be the source of the English word. It may have been passed through Dutch or other languages to reach English, but I'm sure plenty of English gentlemen also read Voltaire in French, and some spent enough time in Paris to learn the slang meaning, if they didn't learn it from the book. So I can't prove that this was the source, but it would be a heck of a coincidence if it isn't.
8.7.2007 11:45am
AK (mail):
Portuguese Breakfast
Irish Facial
8.7.2007 11:49am
Little Loca (mail):
EV: It's not the repetition, in and of itself, but rather your seeming obsession with the term "bugger." I find it humorous, especially considering its VERY infrequent usage in American English (i.e., your dialect of choice). Indeed, I dare say I have NEVER heard that word used in my life by an American; even in law school, it was in British cases that it came up, if I'm not mistaken.
8.7.2007 11:58am
GG (mail):
Bpbatista: The Greek army's motto is actually: "Our people have been around for thousands of years, while yours were living in caves, so while we might have engaged in certain activity, at least we had a language and a thriving civilization...all you had was stalagtites that you kept bumping your head into."
8.7.2007 12:05pm
cathyf:
My, GG, Greeks must need very large bumpers to have such a motto.
8.7.2007 12:26pm
KevinM:
GG: Stalactites. Although you might bump your head on a stalagmite while performing that "certain activity."

This witticism, by the way, was already old when Disraeli uttered a version (albeit a stylish one) of it:
"Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the right honorable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon." (Reply to a taunt by Daniel O'Connell)
8.7.2007 1:59pm
snark:
Neurodoc, you did mean small-c "catholic" as in "universal," right? I don't think EV is Catholic!

But as for your juxtaposition of the c-word and buggery . . .


Is this contest over? Did it end, appropriately enough, with "to bugger"? (That is Bulgarian in derivation?! EV, we know that your interests are notably catholic, . . .
8.7.2007 3:13pm
Richard Gould-Saltman (mail):
Re: Neurodoc's noting of the Legman Limerick anthology, (actually two volumes) while it's nice to see mention of this now-almost-forgotten scholar, if one is to draw conclusions on this issue from his book alone, vast arrays of odd sexual practices are also associated with various obscure places in England, and in particular with C of E clergy from those spots. ("There once was a Bishop of Birmingham..." "There was a young woman of Chichester..." etc.)

Alternative hypothesis: anonymous author hears what he regards as a funny-sounding place name, or designation for its residents, and constructs limerick around the place name...


(BTW, Legman, IIRC was also apparently a scholar and vigorous promoter of origami, and as one might expect, of sexually explicit origami,its intersection with his main area of interest)
8.7.2007 3:14pm
John Burgess (mail) (www):
Little Loca: Sorry to learn of your learning disadvantage. I've been hearing and using 'bugger' since I was 10. I was living in New England, so perhaps that had something to do with it. When first learned, it was just a deprecation, without the (then unknown) sexual content. My hometown, though, was mostly Irish, not British.
8.7.2007 3:42pm
Bpbatista (mail):
GG: Actually, my ancestors were in the Roman Legions that conquered your Greek Army -- whatever it's motto may be.
8.7.2007 5:37pm
Eugene Volokh (www):
Little Loca: Well, you can find obsessions where you please, including in very rare posts on the subject. But it strikes me as quite amusing that something that seems like a quintessential Britishism actually stems from a centuries-old religious and ethnics prejudice against an obscure sect in, of all places, Bulgaria. I suspect that many people who are fascinated by words -- even obsessed with them (I mean words generally, not "bugger" in particular) would find this equally interesting, for this very reason.
8.7.2007 6:01pm
Little Loca (mail):
John Burgess: Am I the one with a learning disadvantage? It seems to me that California's word usage has become the standard (i.e., we invent slang, it appears on TV, and the rest of the country, nay, world, copies it). This explains why you New Englanders were still using the British term. We'll let it go; this time.

Also, have you considered that I might be considerably younger than you? It might be generational.
8.7.2007 6:49pm
GG (mail):
Bpbatista:

(1) "its" motto, not "it's" motto.

(2) your Roman ancestors (though I doubt you had any) were getting pretty frisky, too, in those "baths" of theirs. So, your army joke is one of those "one finger pointing at me, four fingers pointing back at you" scnearios.

(3) you grossly misunderstand history. The Roman Empire's dominance of Greece ended rather quickly (as did the entire empire) and the Eastern Roman Empire (aka the Byzantine or Greco-Roman, really Greek, Empire) went on to thrive. So, even copying our technology and relying on our scientists for technological progress, you STILL couldn't evolve. It's sad. :-( I guess imitation isn't what it's cracked up to be.
8.7.2007 6:55pm
theobromophile (www):
If "ethnic" may encompass the religious, then "Wife of Indra" would be among those practices which have ethnic roots (at least in nomenclature).

Hmmm, have women contributed anything to this thread? Is it an entirely "guy" thing?

This is my contribution to the demasculanisation of this thread.
8.7.2007 6:58pm
Houston Lawyer:
I first saw the term buggery in my Bar-Bri book in the criminal law section. There was very little else amusing in that book.
8.7.2007 7:47pm
neurodoc:
theobromophile, given your engineering background (Chem Eng, no less), I expected precision from you. But no law VA law school is as much as 650 miles south of beantown, let alone up near 700 miles south thereof, and you effectively denied most of them anyway. Supposedly there are no atheists in fox holes, and I very much doubt there are any at Liberty or Regent. Appalachian only 550 miles away, GMU much too close, and I belief you waved me off on Charlottesville, Lexington, and Williamsburg. That would live Richmond, but also well under 700 miles, and what about that "more westerly" clue? (Of no particular consequence, but how about the answer or a more reliable clue to it, e.g., school's mascot or colors, geographical fix, etc.)

I wonder what you thought of, "Apparently the bell curve for women is wider than that for men when it comes to sexual-ethnic etymologies and related humor." I was going to observe that that hypothesis of greater variance in the frequency of a certain attribute in one sex vs the other sounded rather like what got Larry Summers in so much trouble and may have been the beginning of the end for him as a university prez. There can't be a great many chemical engineers, so no disrespect meant, but you may not count as a "typical" representative of your gender here.
8.8.2007 2:13am
neurodoc:
snark, yes, definitely small-c. Seemed like an apt characterization of the breadth of EV's topical interests. The only intended witticism was the observation about how appropriate it would be for the thread to "end" after "to bugger." I do see, though, how you might have thought more was intended given the approximation of the c-word and "to bugger." Because the archdiocese where UCLA is located has finally settled the last of those abuse cases, I do think we should put all this behind us (no, no punning).
8.8.2007 2:27am
Pale Jewel:
Since I am a fan of etymology, this post struck my eye, and I thought you might be interested in the Middle English definition of "buggery":

bugerie - Unfaithfulness toward God, heresy [cp. fornicacioun, sense 2].

Sample usage: "Þe kyng said..þe pape was heretike..&lyued in bugerie" (Robert Mannyng of Brunne, The Chronicle of England, Part 2).

What is interesting to me is the slippage between "heresy" and "fornication". What to me is fascinating about etymology, particularly of slang terms, is the insight it gives into social expectations. "Fornicacioun", you see, has as its primary meaning in the Middle Ages as "lechery, adultery, sodomy, prostitution", but its secondary meaning is "unfaithfulness towards God". The key linking word is "adultery". So, the development of "buggery" as meaning sodomy isn't just because of medieval people's whimsical assumptions about Bulgarians' sexual practices; it's also because of deeply ingrained notions about the nature of faith and personal conduct.

Hm, I have come to this post a little late so I may have written all that for nothing, but it entertained me, at least!
8.8.2007 10:03am
Dr. Weevil (mail) (www):
I'm surprised you didn't note that your comment was #69, Pale Jewel.
8.8.2007 5:01pm
theobromophile (www):
NeuroDoc,

Mea culpa! Mea culpa! My apologies for using only one significant figure.

Did not mean to wave you off with respect to W&M, UVA, Richmond, and W&L - intention was, in fact, to lead you along I-64.

My school is listed as 640.4 miles from my hometown on Mapquest, driving north-south; the opposite route is listed as 641.1 miles; 634.3 miles on Yahoo! Maps, driving north-south; 635.5 miles on Yahoo! Maps driving up from Virginia; and 637 miles on Google Maps (both directions). My odometer usually clocks in at 650 miles. Ignoring my odometer, the average is 637.55 miles with a standard deviation of 2.453 miles.

My hometown is a short drive from my alma mater; I ran it once, which was approximately a half-marathon.

(Of no particular consequence, but how about the answer or a more reliable clue to it, e.g., school's mascot or colors, geographical fix, etc.)

One of the colours is the same as one of the two of my alma mater. I hesitate to call the other a "colour," per se.


I wonder what you thought of, "Apparently the bell curve for women is wider than that for men when it comes to sexual-ethnic etymologies and related humor."

Well, we are looking at quite a small sample size. This is the 70th response to this thread, and there are perhaps only about four women who have posted. Of course, Volokh readers are overwhelmingly male - by a quick guess, roughly 80% - so it is really difficult to determine if your observation is statistically meaningful. ;)


There can't be a great many chemical engineers, so no disrespect meant, but you may not count as a "typical" representative of your gender here.

Considering that I only knew of the aforementioned practice by virtue of seeing a modified Periodic Table that one of my friends had on his wall, you may be correct in that.
8.8.2007 5:28pm
Pale Jewel:
Dr Weevil - I in fact noticed, but only after I had clicked "post comment", alas. It seemed that to follow the comment with another would undermine the joke somewhat, so I am glad you noticed!
8.8.2007 8:11pm
Milhouse (www):
I see that nobody's yet mentioned the Michigan Mop Job
8.9.2007 4:03am