The Volokh Conspiracy

Miles Davis Quintet Plays "Joshua":
The Miles Davis Quintet of 1964-1968 is justly celebrated as one of the most important jazz groups of all time. Miles picked four of the most extraordinary young musicians playing at the time — Wayne Shorter on tenor sax, Herbie Hancock on piano, Ron Carter on bass, and Tony Williams on drums — and they created a new sound that remains tremendously influential today.

  Here's an excellent clip from YouTube of an early performance of the quintet performing "Joshua" on tour in Italy in October 1964. Shorter had joined the group only a month earlier, replacing Sam Rivers, who had a few months earlier replaced George Coleman (you can hear the difference by comparing the string of live albums recorded in 1964: My Funny Valentine in February with Coleman, Miles in Tokyo in July with Rivers, and Miles in Berlin in September with Shorter). It's also interesting to note that the drummer, Tony Williams, was all of 18 years old at the time.
  If you're interested in hearing more, I would probably start with the Quintet's first studio album, E.S.P., and then turn to Sorcerer. At that point I might switch over to a Shorter-led Blue Note, such as Speak No Evil, which has Freddie Hubbard instead of Miles and Elvin Jones instead of Tony Williams but is a terrific album that really shouldn't be missed.
Duffy Pratt (mail):
Thanks for the link. I always like these.

This group, in the Freddie Hubbard edition, recorded V.S.O.P. , one of the finest jazz albums.
4.15.2007 1:42pm
Billy Budd:
Posting this clip is probably copyright infringement, right?
4.15.2007 2:12pm
ME (mail) (www):
Where's the love for "Miles Smiles"?
4.15.2007 3:32pm
Realist Liberal:
Prof. Kerr, thanks for posting these periodically. I really love these posts and my almost 2 year old son loves listening to the music. More recommendations for good jazz are always welcome.
4.15.2007 4:28pm
Jonathan H. Adler (mail) (www):
Orin --

Great recommendations, as always. I can't get enough of my box set of the 1965-68 recordings which I've ripped onto all of my computers.

JHA
4.15.2007 5:55pm
OrinKerr:
Glad you enjoy the posts; I always feel a little strange about posting things so unrelated to law, so that's good to hear.

JHA, do you have the complete Plugged Nickel sessions?
4.15.2007 7:03pm
OrinKerr:
I should also add that my favorite live recording of the Miles 2nd Quintet is probably the 11/6/67 concert in Paris. The version I have was released as "No Blues" on the "Jazz Music Yesterday" label. Hancock and Shorter are particularly stunning on this one.
4.15.2007 7:07pm
Timothy Sandefur (mail) (www):
As a huge Miles Davis fan, I want to second the motion for "Miles Smiles," which was his best album with this quintet, no doubt--and one of his best ever. (Although I'm still a sucker for the Prestige albums like "Relaxin.") But how about that Tony Williams? There's just nothing like him. He's particularly good on "Miles Smiles," in fact, especially on "Freedom Jazz Dance" and "Footprints."

This quintet sometimes takes some getting used to, and I would not recommend that beginners start with "Sorcerer," in fact, which has some numbers that are hard to enjoy on anything but an intellectual level. "E.S.P." is great, particularly the last number, but newcomers to modern jazz should probably start with "Miles Smiles" or something else, in my opinion--and not with the concert albums, which are often played way too fast to be enjoyable.
4.15.2007 7:55pm
R Gould-Saltman (mail):
Defintely, Miles Smiles, in my book, if you already know Kind of Blue (and if you're a reasonably cultured American adult, you should have at least heard THAT). Then, maybe "Four And More". While the tempos are indeed pushed way up, it's just plain fun to hear the rhythm section work at that speed. . .
4.15.2007 9:39pm
Bill N:
Orin,

Love the jazzblogging--always something to look forward to on the weekend.

I've got no quarrel with ESP or Miles Smiles as a starter, but let me put in a plug for the live My Funny Valentine with Coleman. Sure, a couple of the tunes are a bit too fast, and it's Coleman and not Shorter, but for a intro to Tony Williams, check out the title track. Miles starts rubato introducing and improvising around bits of the theme, while Hancock and Williams vamp around him. Then, Williams slowly teases out a groove on his trademark ride cymbal. After about 8 bars, the whole quintet is in on Williams' groove, and the listener is just sucked into this amazing swinging sound. I've heard a zillion 18 year old drummers who could swing, but no one with that finesse. It stops me in my tracks whenever I hear it.

And Realist Liberal--I popped ESP and Sorcerer (along with Shorter's JuJu) after seeing Orin's post, and after about 5 minutes, my two-year-old said, "I like this music." Never too young....
4.15.2007 9:52pm
R Gould-Saltman (mail):
Valentine (for those who don't know the canon) is "mostly the slow tunes" from the same Lincoln Center concert that yielded Four and More.

I'd still pitch for Smiles, first though; not only is there what amounts to a drums-trumpet duet on "Gingerbread Boy", but there's also "Footprints", truly a masterpiece, even to the "run it on down" coda, and Miles' gravel-voiced whisper "Teo?!?" at the end.
4.15.2007 10:31pm
OrinKerr:
Just for the record (pun intended), I love Miles Smiles, too. Listening to it right now, actually.

That reminds me, I heard Jimmy Heath play "Gngerbread Boy" just a few weeks ago at the Vanguard.
4.15.2007 10:58pm
OrinKerr:
So let's do a Miles Davis poll: What is his most underrated record?
4.15.2007 10:59pm
Duffy Pratt (mail):
Well, there is an early Verve recording with him as trumpeter for a Charlie Parker group. It has Don't Blame Me, Embaceable You, My Old Flame, and an absolutely killer version of Bird of Paradise (Bird's take on All the Things You Are). No matter how you rate it, it would still be his most underrated record. Everything on it is spellbinding and brilliant, and the contrast between Miles and Bird somehow fits just perfectly. All great stuff. It's been re-released under a bunch of different names, so the best way to find it is probably a google search.
4.16.2007 12:01am
Thales (mail) (www):
I think In a Silent Way is underrated (much better compositionally than Bitches Brew the following year).

Those who like this period of Miles/Wayne Shorter might also enjoy Roots &Herbs, a lesser known record from Art Blakey and his Jazz Messengers. It was recorded around 1961 but not released until much later. Blakey's band at the time included Wayne Shorter, who composed most of the tracks, and the trumpeter Lee Morgan. Morgan's tone and virtuosity as a trumpet player put Miles to shame (though Miles had the superior body of work and chops as a composer and band leader), but his life was tragically cut short by murder.
4.16.2007 11:02am
Barry P. (mail):
Orin: "Ascenseur pour l'echafaud" is the soundtrack to a Louis Malle movie recorded in a single session in 1957, at the end of a short European tour with what amounted to a pickup band. It's a largely overlooked part of the Davis canon, but I find it mesmerizing.
4.16.2007 11:07am
Richard Gould-Saltman (mail):
There's enough Miles fanatics out there that SOMEONE will pitch for almost any album as not getting the recognition it warrants (well, maybe not Man With the Horn...)
Heck, I thought that all of three people, including me, bought On The Corner, on CD, then I heard it at someone else's house last week., so it musta been four. . .

. . . . but for my thirty or so bucks, the two most under-rated "Miles albums without Miles" would be Wayne Shorter's "pre-fusion" Schizophrenia (Shorter, Hancock, Carter, Chambers, Spaulding, Fuller) and Miroslav Vitous' "what fusion coulda been" Moutain In The Clouds, (originally Infinite Search) (Vitous, Hancock, McLaughlin, Joe Henderson, DeJohnette and Chambers)
4.16.2007 5:32pm
ME (mail) (www):
I'm not sure there is an underrated Miles Davis album. Pick any; it has a following. The idea of good Miles albums without Miles is intriguing. Though it may just resonate with my recent listening, specifically Wayne Shorter's Adam's Apple and Tomasz Stanko's Suspended Night.
4.17.2007 1:07am
Timothy Sandefur (mail) (www):
Ack, I should go back and check blog comments more often.

Miles' most underrated record is Some Day My Prince Will Come, which nobody ever mentions among his best, but which has some outstanding playing. The title track is as cheerful and fun as any of the First Quintet records. "Teo" has a great Coletrane solo--and I'm not a big fan of Coltrane, so that's saying a lot. And the slow pieces like "Old Folks" have the perfect smoky, dark, sound that is copyright 1961, Miles Davis Inc.
4.23.2007 2:44pm