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More Irony--Imus Apologizes on Sharpton Show:

I am somewhat overwhelmed by the absurdity of someone apologizing to Al Sharpton for making a bigoted remark, and then Sharpton not accepting the apology. Talk about glass houses! Imus should certainly have apologized for his remark, but not to someone with Sharpton's history.

Vovan:
Imus broadcasts from NYC's WFAN station. Sharpton is the leading voice for Black New York metro area. If you want to apologize for racist comments, made about a tri-state area basketball team no less, you go to Sharpton.
4.9.2007 6:14pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
"Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!"

This happened in 1995 while the great law enforcer Rudy Giuliani was mayor. Where were the police?
4.9.2007 6:15pm
Realist Liberal (mail):
As a Democrat I've always been embarrased by Sharpton. Unfortunately I think I'm in the minority (within the Party) on that issue. I'm only slightly less embarrased by Jesse Jackson and his racial pandering.
4.9.2007 6:24pm
Houston Lawyer:
I believe Lee Brown, former mayor of Houston, was police chief in NY at that time. Mr. Brown's incompetence is legendary.

Maybe Sharpton should have apologized to Imus, as a representative of the white race, for Sharpton's past transgressions.

Imus should go directly to the team he insulted. Only they can accept or reject his apology. And just because they accept it or reject it doesn't mean we have to agree with them either.
4.9.2007 6:38pm
Steve:
Apparently there was some sort of election where Sharpton became the official apology-accepter on behalf of the African-American community. It's a little odd, the process by which we convey such titles in America.

Be that as it may, Imus is clearly in the wrong here, and thus doesn't really get to decide who is worthy of accepting his apology. By the same token, the white community doesn't really get to decide who it's going to recognize as the leaders of the black community.
4.9.2007 6:39pm
skooby (mail):

As a Democrat I've always been embarrased by Sharpton. Unfortunately I think I'm in the minority (within the Party) on that issue.

As a fellow Democrat, I can't say that I've ever been embarrassed by Sharpton. I think reasonable people, whether Democrat, Republican, or nonpartisan, will realize that he's one of the fringe types like Don Wildmon or Jim Dobson who might have the ear of a few relevant politicians but ultimately is a nonfactor. I don't know that you're in the minority.
4.9.2007 6:45pm
WHOI Jacket:
"Jesse Jackson isn't the Emperor of black people!"

"...but he told me he was"


Once again, South Park speaks truth.
4.9.2007 6:50pm
VFBVFB (mail):
--- I believe Lee Brown, former mayor of Houston, was police chief in NY at that time. Mr. Brown's incompetence is legendary. ---

Nope. Brown was NYC Police Chief under David Dinkins. Guiliani had two police chiefs, William Bratton, and the unfortunate choice of Bernard Kerik. Bratton was police chief during the Freddy's incident.
4.9.2007 6:53pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
"Sharpton is the leading voice for Black New York metro area."

Who elected Sharpton anything? Give the sensible black people in NYC are little more credit.

When a TV interviewer asked Sharpton who he thought was the best leader of a country he named another terrorist, Nelson Mandela. When the interviewer informed Sharpton that Mandela was no longer president of South Africa, Sharpton looked dazed and stumbled for words. His knowledge of world leaders was exhausted.
4.9.2007 6:54pm
b.:
yes yes yes. we're all white so let's agree about everything while we're here.
4.9.2007 6:56pm
laborliber (mail):
It is no secret amongst the thinking public of all races that Sharpton is the leading profiteer of american racial conflict. While not one to blame the media, it is in this case their need for a face and a voice on black issues that has driven the success of this charlatan (I almost wrote harlot, perhaps I should have). As to the commenter's question about where the police were in 1995, it has been a standing order in the NYPD since at least the early 1970's to stand down during a racially charged demonstration or riot.
4.9.2007 6:58pm
Jeff Shultz (mail):
Comparing Dr. James Dobson (who can annoy me occasionally) to deliberate race-baiter Al Sharpton is a bit disingenuous, isn't it?

I don't even think I've heard of Don Wildmon.
4.9.2007 7:03pm
ed o:
it does further point out that, for all his bluster, Imus is a cowardly fool. He couldn't stand on his own two feet and issue whatever apology was appropriate. instead, he slinks into the studios of an ignorant and dangerous racist like Sharpton to do his groveling?
4.9.2007 7:06pm
ed o:
perhaps they could have reached some common ground by noting it was the fault of jews? or maybe Koreans?
4.9.2007 7:07pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
"I can't say that I've ever been embarrassed by Sharpton."

You should be.

"… he's one of the fringe types like Don Wildmon or Jim Dobson who might have the ear of a few relevant politicians but ultimately is a nonfactor."

If he is such a fringe type that why did he get to speak at the 2004 Democratic National Convention? Would the Republicans ever let David Duke speak at their convention?
4.9.2007 7:09pm
FutureLawStudent:
I agree with WHOI jacket about South Park. Jeff Shultz, however, I will have to disagree with. Dobson has issued just as many questionable comments as Sharpton has.

The first sentence of this quote is quoted for truth, however the rest I don't particularly agree with.


As a Democrat I've always been embarrased by Sharpton. Unfortunately I think I'm in the minority (within the Party) on that issue. I'm only slightly less embarrased by Jesse Jackson and his racial pandering.


I do not think that those embarrassed by Sharpton are in the minority of the Democratic Party. Many of my fellow Democrats feel the same way.
4.9.2007 7:12pm
Steve:
Yes, yes, let's all the white Democrats show up to disavow Sharpton, as if it means something.

Like it or not, Sharpton is a perfectly mainstream spokesman for the black community. That doesn't mean he is beloved by every member of that community; many oppose him vigorously, to be sure. But the same is true for any other unofficial spokesman for any other large group in America. No one enjoys monolithic support.

It may be true that by a head count, most Democrats aren't fans of Sharpton. But he's the spokesman for an important group within the Democratic coalition, and thus he gets a seat at the table.

Why does Jerry Falwell get consulted when the Bush Administration wants to make a Supreme Court pick? Surely most Republicans don't see Jerry Falwell as a credible figure, and even within the subgroup of social conservatives there are surely a great many people who don't want him as their spokesman. But he does have a constituency, and so they reach out to him. This is how it works, in a two-party system where you need to build a coalition to govern.

You can make whatever judgments you want about the black community for viewing Sharpton as a mainstream spokesman. I'd just point out that America as a whole is not always perfect when it comes to choosing the folks who speak for all of us, either.
4.9.2007 7:34pm
Ron Hardin (mail) (www):
Imus shouldn't have apologized at all for anything. He's being intimidated, partly by shameful management cowardice in the face of a contrived firestorm, and partly by his need to stay on the air (in any form, even a program turned to Good Morning America women's pap) to fund his Ranch, which he does care about. Otherwise he would have retired years ago.

Here's what we're talking about, audio (4 cuts run together, from Wed Wed Thurs Fri) here

A brief gloss is that he's mocking the _media_ coverage of sports, by giving ugliness scores rather than basketball scores. College basketball trades on the media hype and so is fair game for ridicule.

The correct response for the women, if they heard about it, which in the absence of the firestorm is unlikely, is to say that they're not trying to be pretty but rather to be good at basketball. And Imus's reply is that your hobby is not as important to people as you imagine it to be, which is what the sportscast says every day.

Sports and sports coverage is a business. The goal is to keep people tuned in. Imus mocks that.

What has happened now (Monday) is that Imus has actually gone the route offered to him, of taking the line that blacks are subhuman ; rather than his former line, that everybody is amusing in some way, and everybody can shake it off in the normal course of life.

A minister said to him over the weekend, Imus reported, that all blacks deep within feel that white people don't like them. And sooner or later, no matter how good that white person is, it will come out. And what Imus did, was confirm that belief, said the minister.

So, Imus agreed, black people should not be made fun of ever again.

I doubt most black people believe this, but the followers do, and it's a belief that keeps them in their very own racist reservation, to the benefit of black leaders.

The deal with dignity is strange. These blacks feel that whites are withholding dignity from them somehow. But the only way to get dignity is to do something for somebody else. There are no shortcuts.

Sociologist Erving Goffman, writing about very sick patients, remarked that no matter how sick and feeble, there is some consideration what will not have to be given to them. They will raise themselves a tiny bit to assist changing their clothes, or do something, to help those charged with helping them. That is what gives them dignity.

If these reservation blacks want dignity as blacks, then they have to do something for whites, say take a collection for poor whites in the community ; and then notice what happens to themselves, dignitywise.

The reason they don't have dignity is that they let the task of becoming human wait on how others treat them.

Asking for an apology from Imus is the worst course possible, dignitywise, except for the managers of the black reservation.

Which is what Imus has now acceded to, to fund his ranch.

He should have told them again what he told them Thursday, to f* off.
4.9.2007 7:39pm
Elais:
Ron,

So you don't believe anyone should apologize for any insult whatsoever?
4.9.2007 7:57pm
bigchris1313 (mail):

"Jesse Jackson isn't the Emperor of black people!"

"...but he told me he was"


You beat me to the punch. But I believe Stan's response was actually, "That's not what he told me dad."
4.9.2007 7:58pm
Ron Hardin (mail) (www):
Elias, not if you meant it. What has meant here was obvious from the context, that it's making-fun-of, which is what the show does to everybody. Everybody.

They're old enough to understand that. Do so.

That's paying them a courtesy, by the way.
4.9.2007 8:00pm
jrose:
I enjoy the Imus show. It's often bitingly funny and gets otherwise stale politicians and media personalities to open up. But the argument that he is only poking fun - rather than perpetuating stereotypes - doesn't always hold. In addition to the gratuitous "nappy-headed hos", you've got the Ray Negin and Alberto Gonzalez imitations along with the repeated use of "maricon". Imus is not Michael Savage (not even close) - but he's not Jon Stewart or South Park either.
4.9.2007 8:11pm
Lance-tmq2 (mail) (www):
Al Sharpton is exponentially more intelligent and likeable than guys like Louis Farrakhan or Jesse Jackson. Sadly, he undermines himself with his "hate whitey" attitude. He wreaks of racism. We'll never take guys like any of the above seriously until they stop blaming everyone else for exactly what they do...hate. They remind me of Pigpen from Charlie Brown. He was a great kid, but his STANK drove people away.
4.9.2007 8:20pm
Ron Hardin (mail) (www):
jrose,

I love the Ray Negin (is that really how it's spelled?) bits. How is that racist? It's making fun of world-class incompetence and the rhetoric that surrounds it.

Lots of blacks get mocked by Imus. Why wouldn't you want and expect that?
4.9.2007 8:21pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
Vovan:

The first link is a poll where Sharpton got a 50% favorable rating from the black respondents. Does that qualify him as a spokesman for the community? Perhaps it does if the poll is representative. I would like to know the non-response rate and other details. I'd rather see how people would answer a direct question like: "Do you think Al Sharpton speaks for the NYC black community?" Nevertheless, I suspect you're right, and I am forced to lower my opinion of that community. I lived in New York City for 30 years, and revisit at least yearly. I guess things have changed a lot since I left, too bad.

Thanks very much for the reality check.
4.9.2007 8:37pm
Kazinski:
Imus's comments were unacceptable by almost any standard. The only context in which they wouldn't be an issue is if they were made by:
<blockquote>
a) a black comic refering to anyone.
b) a white liberal referring to Condi Rice.
</blockquote>
4.9.2007 8:45pm
fishbane (mail):
A minister said to him over the weekend, Imus reported, that all blacks deep within feel that white people don't like them. And sooner or later, no matter how good that white person is, it will come out.

I had a similar experience recently. A Celtic cleric assured me that all British people were incapable of love and compassion, and have no taste in food. It made me feel much better about my trash talking.
4.9.2007 8:47pm
Visitor Again:
I think apologizing to Sharpton is a brilliant move for the racist Imus. It turns the attention of most whites to Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton becomes the issue instead of Don Imus to most white folks, per most of the above messages. Or at least Imus's apology to Sharpton becomes the issue instead of Imus's insult to all persons of color and, really, to all persons with any decency.
4.9.2007 9:46pm
Darth Sharpton:
"Apology accepted, Captain Imus."
4.9.2007 10:05pm
J. F. Thomas (mail):
Imus shouldn't have apologized at all for anything.

So if your daughter were on a National Championship College Softball Team and a nationally syndicated black broadcaster called her and her team a bunch of "redneck trailer trash sluts", you would think that was perfectly okay?
4.9.2007 10:20pm
Ron Hardin (mail) (www):
JF Thomas,

Why black? Imus does trailer trash jokes all the time, usually about callers or country artists.

Sure it's okay.

What kind of country has this turned into?

If it were Imus, something would have provoked the line, that needed mocking.

(I remember a particularly nice Imus line, ``The Goober Wall of Silence,'' about some country artist affair being kept secret)

I think the whole firestorm is to get rid of a dangerous mocker, at the moment.

At whatever cost to blacks, incidentally.
4.9.2007 10:31pm
Dan Friedman (mail):
I listened to Imus regularly years ago, before he aspired to respectable punditry and his show was actually funny - and insulting to just about anyone who was in earshot. Arabs were "towelheads," Pakistanis smelly, stupid, semi-illiterate grocery store owners, I could go on and on. Sexism, racism, bigotry and ugly stereotyping were Imus's hilarious stock and trade.

Someone should go back and check the Imus archives, then ask, "so what else is new?" And after asking the question, answering it too.
4.9.2007 10:52pm
postroad (mail) (www):
While so man y comments focus upon Sharpton, take a few minutes to search Imus and hom ophic remarks; Imus and anti-semitic remarks. you will then find that he has dumped on Jews and gays a number of times! And so he got caught up on this one and gets two weeks suspension. That guy is worse than el Givson.Mel singles out Jews and Mayans. Do the search and then tell me Imus made a slight slip!
4.9.2007 10:53pm
postroad (mail) (www):
While so many comments focus upon Sharpton, take a few minutes to search "Imus and homophic remarks"; "Imus and anti-semitic remarks". you will then find that he has dumped on Jews and gays a number of times! And so he got caught up on this one and gets two weeks suspension. That guy is worse than el Givson.Mel singles out Jews and Mayans. Do the search and then tell me Imus made a slight slip!
4.9.2007 10:55pm
J. F. Thomas (mail):
Arabs were "towelheads," Pakistanis smelly, stupid, semi-illiterate grocery store owners, I could go on and on. Sexism, racism, bigotry and ugly stereotyping were Imus's hilarious stock and trade.

Gee, I thought we grew out of that when we were in sixth grade. If that is your idea of funny, well then, I guess I know where you are coming from.
4.9.2007 11:17pm
Dan Friedman (mail):
Gee, I thought we grew out of that when we were in sixth grade. If that is your idea of funny, well then, I guess I know where you are coming from.

Whether I think that's funny, or you think I'm childish, or I think you're dense, is not the point. The point is, Imus has been making tens of millions of dollars being sexist, racist and bigoted for decades, so what did he do last week that was different?
4.9.2007 11:28pm
Ron Hardin (mail) (www):
Dan Friedman,

Okay, I just put up from my vast collection an Imus India/Pakistan nuclear war in the news clip, from June 2, 2002, that spontaneously (after a dangerous Imus ``um...'' following a news clip) degenerates into stereotyping. It is very funny , it seems to me.

What has happened is that being a serious person in the news is a dangerous position. The contrast is between the news frame and the ordinary life frame, and that's why it's funny. The stereotyping itself is necessary but not the joke, so much as to reframe the news clip as ordinary life and render the speaker ridiculously out of frame.

This is mostly a good thing.

What force today might be interested in making the news safer for serious people, in the absence of Imus and crew?

Just a thought.

Somebody really got to Imus management.
4.9.2007 11:33pm
Bernue (mail):
Sharpton is a bigoted, racist son of a bitch himself. Why would anybody wanna apologize to that nappy headed bastard?
4.9.2007 11:48pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
Imus is not a priest, or a community leader; He's a shock jock, and people tune in to see what outrageous thing he will say that day. He's a little like Howard Stern, or Michael Savage. Don't tune in to Michael Savage if you're a thin-skinned homosexual because he's going to call you a pervert. I don't see why someone can't say they don't like a particular group or race. If a shock jock goes too far and slanders someone then he can recover damages in court. If a shock jock incites people to riot like Sharpton then the government should punish him. But of course Sharpton gets a pass because he's black and the politicians want the black vote. Don't people want to live in a free country anymore?

Actually I'm more upset when a shock jock like Michael Savage puts out false information on nutrition or biology like plants emit co2. He's an ignoramus, but he's entitled to insult people; it's his show. Same goes for Imus.
4.10.2007 2:24am
Mister Snitch! (mail) (www):
Sharpton is the leading voice for Black New York metro area.

God, what a terrible thing to say about blacks in New York. Is Howard Stern the leading voice for White New York? Hey, I like Howard fine, but I don't THINK he's leading White New York anywhere. "Loud" and "leading" are different animals.
4.10.2007 2:46am
Mister Snitch! (mail) (www):
Um... BTW, Mr./Ms. Zarkov: Plants DO emit CO2. (Just not all the time.)
4.10.2007 2:51am
Ron Hardin (mail) (www):
Dan Friedman,

The point is, Imus has been making tens of millions of dollars being sexist, racist and bigoted for decades, so what did he do last week that was different?

It's pretty strongly out of character for management.

One thing that Imus did in the last week is take a stand on not letting Hillary on his show, claiming she's a complete transparent phoney, and she'd never be on, period. Imus likes all the other Democrats.

So, if you want to wonder about something interesting, there's something to file away.
4.10.2007 5:51am
A. Zarkov (mail):
Mr. Snitch:

That's interesting. According to the Wikipedia entry for photosynthesis "When oxygen levels rise in the leaf, C4 plants reverse the reaction to release carbon dioxide thus preventing photorespiration." In any case Savage made the blanket statement that plants emit co2 without qualification. But this is just part of the normal carbon cycle. It's the burning of fossil fuels that drives increased average atmospheric co2 because this releases the carbon normally sequestered in the earth's crust.
4.10.2007 6:07am
Ron Hardin (mail) (www):
con't, Here's Imus talking with Trump last Friday , that Hillary will never be on the show, against Trump's urging.

But wait, Friday is too late! He said the horrible nappyword on Wednesday, and the firestorm happened Thursday.

Trump concludes that (Imus producer) Bernard (McGuirk) had made it very clear to him on the phone that Hillary wasn't coming on the show, three days earlier. That would be Tuesday.

So it could be a first opportunity thing.
4.10.2007 6:09am
Dan Friedman (mail):
A few final thoughts on l'affaire Imus. 1. He's just an entertainer trying to protect his backside and his franchise. 2. This may drive him to satellite radio like Stern. 3. The girls on the Rutgers team aren't the "hos" here. 4. Imus is a "ho" but he's not "nappy-headed." 4. His Father Confessor, Sharpton, is a "ho" too, but he is "nappy-headed." 5. The Big Winners are the Liberal Thought Police.
4.10.2007 8:12am
PersonFromPorlock:

Who elected Sharpton anything? Give the sensible black people in NYC are little more credit.

When a TV interviewer asked Sharpton...


I think you answered your own question.
4.10.2007 9:45am
rarango (mail):
Bernue: good point except I think you misspelled "bastard." To be put in appropriate street slang, it starts with an "n."
4.10.2007 10:02am
jrose:
Ron Hardin,

In my opinion, the ebonic-accent-as-boob is much closer to a Sambo or Uncle Remus "joke" than something resembling satire. Sure, there is satire in there about Nagin, but the accent isn't a part of it.
4.10.2007 10:07am
Lively:
There's an elephant in the room and people are not addressing it. You are not allowed to insults blacks in any way, shape or form. Democrat blacks. It's also wrong to insult homosexuals, but not as bad. Democrat homosexuals.
4.10.2007 10:07am
ed o:
lively got it right-a similar statement referring to Condi Rice wouldn't get the play. In fact, she has been referred to in ways more derogatory than this with no backlash.
4.10.2007 10:20am
AK (mail):
This Imus dustup is about Barak Hussein Obama. No, really.

Obama is rapidly eclipsing Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the other members of the Professional Racial Grievance Industry(tm) as the unoffical leader of black America. And because Mr. Obama has a reasonable chance of winning in 2008, he may soon be the official leader of black America, as well as white America and every other America. Sharpton can't have that. Obama didn't pay his dues. He didn't climb his way up through decades of community organizing and protest marches. He parachuted in, and he's about to supplant Sharpton and make much less relevant.

Sharpton has to do whatever it takes to stay in the news, or it's going to be All Obama, All the Time. Picking on Imus for something that he's been doing every day for decades is the best way to do it at this point.
4.10.2007 10:22am
junyo (mail):
I've said it before, I'll say it again... If Al Sharpton didn't exist white people would invent him. Al is the Universal Racism Rationale; you can say anything, then stand next to Al, and whites either a) assume that an acceptable apology has been made/understanding reached/genuflection given to a "black leader" (Name the person/handful of people authorized to speak for ALL whites/Hispanics/Asians...Yeah, thought so. The concept is laughable on it's face, except when applied to blacks.), or b) are driven into a foaming frothy rage. Either way, you're not the problem anymore.
4.10.2007 10:48am
AK (mail):
Junyo wrote:

"(Name the person/handful of people authorized to speak for ALL whites/Hispanics/Asians...Yeah, thought so. The concept is laughable on it's face, except when applied to blacks.)"

Apparently he disagrees with Vovan, who wrote:

"White voters give Sharpton a big negative 7 - 64 percent favorability, while black voters favor him 50 - 16 percent"

So does Sharpton speak for a substantial portion of the black community, or not? I'm so confused.

There's no pleasing some people, and there's no way that Imus could ever adequately apologize to everyone who claims to be offended. This whole thing is silly.
4.10.2007 11:06am
markm (mail):

Steve:
Apparently there was some sort of election where Sharpton became the official apology-accepter on behalf of the African-American community. It's a little odd, the process by which we convey such titles in America.

Be that as it may, Imus is clearly in the wrong here, and thus doesn't really get to decide who is worthy of accepting his apology. By the same token, the white community doesn't really get to decide who it's going to recognize as the leaders of the black community.

If Al Sharpton really is the representative in charge of accepting apologies for the black community, then no one this side of David Duke needs to apologize - and he isn't about to do it...
4.10.2007 11:27am
Adeez (mail):
I'm no fan of Sharpton, but he is not the equivalent of Falwell. He is a bright man who does assert many reasonable positions despite his faults.

And if one believes that forgiveness is divine, as I do, then you have to give him a ton of credit: someone almost stabbed him to death, and he promptly forgave his attacker from his hospital bed. How many of us are strong enough to do that? Doubtful I am, and hopefully we'll never be put in such a position.

For the racists, bigots, and angry people out there: my defense of Al is confined to the above and ends here. Just thought it was worth a mention. No pissing matches please.
4.10.2007 12:05pm
ed o:
That is true-Falwell has never been found liable for defamation based on racially inflammatory lies nor has his rhetoric been responsible for anyone being murdered. Does your defense extend to these actions or am I just being angry and racist for pointing out what a piece of disgusting work this bright man is?
4.10.2007 12:25pm
Adeez (mail):
Ed O: I assume you're addressing my post. I also see that this is a sensitive issue for you. That's cool; to each his own.

But as your sarcastic question seems to demonstrate, you did not read my brief post closely enough. So, for your benefit, I will quote the relevant passage: "my defense of Al is confined to the above and ends here." Sorry, I thought that was clear on the first read.
4.10.2007 1:28pm
ed o:
well, I am afraid AS doesn't end within the parameters you choose to defend him on. As to the sensitivity of the issue, AS has blood on his hands-it should be an issue for everyone out there, particularly those claiming he is "bright man" with "reasonable positions".
4.10.2007 2:00pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
Adeez:

First you tell us than Sharpton is a bright man who does assert many reasonable positions. That sure sounds like a defense of the man to me. Then you say, "… my defense of Al is confined to the above and ends here." If "above" refers to just the prior paragraph where he forgave his attacker, then why have the first paragraph? If "above" refers to both paragraphs then you are defending a lot about the man. Then you raise the protective race shield by a preemptory attack on anyone who might disagree.

I would like examples of Shapton's "many reasonable positions," because he's still trying to stir up racial trouble in New York City. The latest is the Bell shooting where he tries his best to distort what happed, leave out important facts about circumstances and people, and make it harder for the policemen to have a fair hearing. People in New York could end up dead because of him as they have before. He has done infinitely more harm than some silly shock jock who few take seriously.

Heather Mac Donald has written about the Bell affair in Time for the Truth About Black Crime Rates. You might find it interesting, even informative.
4.10.2007 3:16pm
Rattan (mail):
Offensive as Mr. Sharpton may seem to be, it is best to not take umbrage or look down upon him. Cooler heads will realize that it is not him-- it probably is his genes. Many of these genes are explained by the deep biological bonds he has with the late senator Thurmond, who was also known for his folksy and popular manner for appealing to his constituency (very loyal at that) and offending others.

When I see Mr. Sharpton in the media my Pavlovian response is to think of Senator Thurmond and vice versa.
Then just tune-in and tune-out.
4.10.2007 5:05pm
ed o:
AS has a higher body count than Strom, so he is hard to ignore.
4.10.2007 6:31pm
Vovan:

I would like examples of Shapton's "many reasonable positions," because he's still trying to stir up racial trouble in New York City. The latest is the Bell shooting where he tries his best to distort what happed, leave out important facts about circumstances and people, and make it harder for the policemen to have a fair hearing. People in New York could end up dead because of him as they have before. He has done infinitely more harm than some silly shock jock who few take seriously.


Zarkov

It's good that you moved out of NYC, Howard Beach ain't what it used to be back in the day - you know what I'm saying?
4.10.2007 6:44pm
Ron Hardin (mail) (www):
The fragments of the Rutgers press conference in the news reminded me of the Anita Hill news coverage, where once again also the fragile flower of a woman, who had been anenvelope of a fine soul to that point, had been exposed to a male idea.

I wonder if this isn't about race at all, as far as the news play goes, but about soap opera as usual.

If so, Sharpton is a sideshow to the main event.
4.10.2007 7:10pm
Lively:
I agree with other posters who say Al is a hypocrite. Don Imus should quit after Al Sharpton resigns.

Second point, Al Sharpton is supposed to be a Reverend.

Don Imus goes on Al's show and asks for forgiveness....and Al Sharpton says, no.

Whole thing is a PC circus.
4.10.2007 7:31pm
whit:
the idea of a black "spokesman" for his "people" is patently absurd. it is correct that we don't have white spokesman, asian spokesman, etc. what exactly does a black surfer fine arts student from laguna beach studying at UCSD, have in common with a black immigrant from somalia living in Iowa? i really find it insulting that people think that any person(s) can be a spokeman for a "race".

i also note that the far left websites (democraticunderground.com etc.) are using this incident as a call for GOVERNMENT to step in as clearly racist and sexist speech should not be allowed on the "public's airwaves."
4.10.2007 7:33pm