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Woman Complains to Officer About Buying Bad Crack, Gets Arrested:
The story is here.
Shelby (mail):
My faith in the stupidity of humanity is restored. And just in time for Christmas!
12.20.2006 5:08pm
liberty (mail) (www):
"She pulled an alleged crack rock out of her mouth and placed it on the deputy's car for inspection."

Not only does she have a deficit in her legal cunning, she also doesn't know how to consume her medication of choice. If I understand correctly, one isn't supposed to eat crack rock, but smoke it. There is no reason for the crack rock to be inside her mouth in solid form. Only vapors should enter there.
12.20.2006 5:34pm
Nom (mail):
Not only does she have a deficit in her legal cunning, she also doesn't know how to consume her medication of choice. If I understand correctly, one isn't supposed to eat crack rock, but smoke it. There is no reason for the crack rock to be inside her mouth in solid form. Only vapors should enter there.

Crack dealers on the street typically put crack rocks wrapped in cellophane in their mouth, so it can be swallowed if the police approach. It can then be recovered later.
12.20.2006 5:46pm
Lurker (mail):
Crackheads hide the rocks in their mouths. That way if the police jump them, they can swallow the evidence.

An interesting legal question that comes out of this - what are the limits on what police can do to attempt to remove the rock before the suspect 'spoils' the evidence? Common sense tells you that any attempt to prevent someone from swallowing something in their mouth is likely to be both painful and dangerous to the suspect and yet I've seen cops quite literally choke it out them. Usually the suspect gives up but occasionally they just run out of air and pass out.

Any civil rights lawyers care to comment on the where the line is (or ought to be)?
12.20.2006 5:51pm
guest:
And for some reason, the ad on the right is a seemingly gigantic jug of Theraflu.
12.20.2006 5:54pm
James Dillon (mail):

Crackheads hide the rocks in their mouths. That way if the police jump them, they can swallow the evidence.


Yes, but clearly she wasn't trying to hide the fact that she had crack, since she quite willingly volunteered this information to the deputy. So, if she wasn't trying to hide it, why did she have the crack rock in her mouth?
12.20.2006 6:06pm
David Chesler (mail) (www):
12.20.2006 6:07pm
Kovarsky (mail):
Crackheads hide the rocks in their mouths. That way if the police jump them, they can swallow the evidence.

this is where cavities are useful.
12.20.2006 6:12pm
Kovarsky (mail):
compulsory mitch hedberg cavity joke:

"'Do you know where I can store a pea?' 'Yes, I have some spaces available.'"
12.20.2006 6:13pm
Anon.:
Practical tip for defrauded narcotics purchasers: Don't say to a cop: "That guy over there sold me bad crack!" Instead, say "That guy over there tried to sell me crack!" Of course, your results will vary.
12.20.2006 7:44pm
PGofHSM (mail) (www):
Well, one of the things legalization does bring you is enforceability of contract, and I guess she temporarily forgot that crack wasn't legal. Crack's being illegal makes breach an unusually efficient option.
12.20.2006 7:48pm
Nicole Black (mail) (www):
I posted about this yesterday on my blog, Sui Generis here

Stupidity reigns supreme.

As I said in my post, next time maybe she'll cut her losses and keep her mouth— with the subpar drugs safely hidden inside—shut.
12.20.2006 8:01pm
A. Zarkov (mail):
You can find a picture of the woman here along with the following additional information.


Police said the man whom Reaves accused of selling the cocaine was contacted by Pedrick. He denied knowing Reaves and allowed the deputy to search him. The search revealed that he did not have any cocaine or money on him. Police said the man whom Reaves accused of selling the cocaine was contacted by Pedrick. He denied knowing Reaves and allowed the deputy to search him. The search revealed that he did not have any cocaine or money on him.
12.20.2006 8:15pm
Martyb:
The well-informed woman must have reasoned like this:

The feds can punish a man who plants a pot of pot for the use of his wife, suffering with cancer, because when he supplies his own pot it has a deleterious effect on the interstate traffic in marijuana.

Crack can also be shipped interstate, so she figures they must have a similar interest in preserving this interstate market.

Adulterated crack has an extremely regrettable effect on the market.

Therefore they should help her stamp it out.

Is there a lawyer in the house?
12.20.2006 8:55pm
BruceM (mail) (www):
These "person reported bad/stolen drugs to the cops and hilarity and arrests ensued" stories are pretty common. Unfortunately there are never any follow-ups. What happens to the person accused of selling the bad drugs or stealing the drugs? Has anyone ever been prosecuted for stealing cocaine from someone else (in addition to the possession offense)?
12.21.2006 1:09am
Nicole Black (mail) (www):
Has anyone ever been prosecuted for stealing cocaine from someone else (in addition to the possession offense)?


In my experiince, that has occurred, as I mentioned in this post at my blog: Hey Officer--He Stole My Pot!

From that post:

As stupid as it may seem, this type of occurrence isn't as uncommon as you might think. For some reason, people believe that the police are going to be more concerned about the theft-related crime than the crime of drug possession Sometimes they're right and sometimes they're not. It's really a toss up.

I think that the cops balance the relative "badness" of the complainant and the suspected robber. For example, I was involved in one case where the police turned a blind eye to the fact that the complainants--some college kids--possessed pot (a lot of it) since some really "bad" inner city guys with extensive criminal records forcibly stole it from them using semi-automatic weapons. But then again, I've seen other cases where the drug possession wasn't ignored, much to the dismay of the "victim".

My 2 cents: if you're dealing drugs, getting ripped off on occasion is just the cost of doing business. I wouldn't recommend getting the cops involved--unless of course they're interested in making a purchase--which wouldn't surprise me one bit.
12.21.2006 7:50am
gbrown:
Stupidity is not always one-sided in such cases. I remember an instance where the officer asked a person about the off-white crystaline substance found in the person's pocket. The person told the officer that it was a "rock." After the person was duly arrested and the substance tested at the state crime laboratory, it was discovered that substance was indeed a rock.
12.21.2006 11:02am
whit:
Nicole, yes.

MOST druggies are not gonna call police to report their drugs stolen. But I have seen cases wherein somebody was prosecuted for stealing illegal drugs from another party.

Note that in making the stolen drugs case, the person is incriminating themselves.

of course, no prosecution for possession could be charged in regards to the complainant, without recovery of the stolen drugs,since there is no way to prove the "alleged cocaine" was in fact - cocaine, if it was stolen and not recovered
12.21.2006 3:02pm
whit:
"After the person was duly arrested and the substance tested at the state crime laboratory"

that wouldn't be "duly arrested" in any jurisdiction *i* am aware of. "rock" usually refers to rock cocaine. you may be able to detain (handcuff) briefly based on the statement "it's a rock", but you would need AT LEAST a field test of the suspected cocaine before you could actually book the person.

in all the jurisdictions i am aware of.

"it's a rock", even with clarification "you mean rock COCAINE?" - "yes, officer", would not be enough to book the person.

i'd like to see the case, gbrown. cause if they actually did anything but detain the person pending a FIELD test for merely saying "it's a rock" without clarification and field testing, that would be absurd and indefensible in any jurisdiction i am aware of
12.21.2006 3:06pm
luagha:
As the scorpion said to the toad, "It's in my nature. You knew I was poison when you picked me up."
12.21.2006 3:06pm