More on the Rationality of Voting - Reply to Jim Lindgren:

Co-blogger Jim Lindgren has a thoughtful response to my analysis of the rationality of voting. To briefly recap, I argue that voting is rational if 1) voters value the utility of their fellow citizens as well as their own, and 2) they perceive a big enough difference between the "right" candidate and his or her opponent. In reply, Jim makes the point that I may overestimate the extent to which people value the utility of others relative to their own. I assumed, in my analysis, that they value benefits to fellow citizens on average, 1/1000 as much as they value benefits to themselves. Jim argues, however, that:

Ilya's equation assumes that, if a voter could guarantee a victory for his preferred candidate, a typical voter would be willing to pay only $5,000 for one person's benefit (presumably his own), but that the same voter would be willing to pay about $1.5 billion dollars to benefit others ($5,000 x 300 million people / 1000). In other words, Ilya assumes that a rational voter when voting values the total utility of other Americans 300,000 times more than he values his own total non-altruistic utility ($1.5 billion to $5,000). Moreover, even leaving aside the comparative valuation, it can’t be that (because of altruism) the utility to each person voting of having one’s preferred candidate certain to win would be $1.5 billion dollars. To say that these are extraordinarily implausible assumptions is an understatement.

I have two responses to Jim's point, one technical, the other intuitive. Let's take the intuitive point first: Jim's analysis assumes that the relationship between the amount of money you are willing to give up to benefit others and the amount of benefit they receive from the sacrifice is purely linear. That is, if you are willing to give up $1 so that your neighbor will get $1000, you are also willing to give up $1.5 billion in order to give your fellow Americans $1.5 trillion. To my mind, the second doesn't necessarily follow from the first. Jim has shown that my analysis becomes implausible in cases where the voter/citizen is called upon to make very large sacrifices. When we're talking about voting, we're generally talking about a very small sacrifice.

Second, the technical point. Jim has (understandably) conflated the distinction between dollar income and utility. My analysis assumes that people value the utility of others at 1/1000 of their own, which is not the same thing as valuing the added dollar income of others at 1/1000 of the rate at which you value adding dollars to your income. When we're talking about making a sacrifice of $35,000 out of a $50,000 annual income (to use Jim's example), we're talking about a vastly greater loss of utility to the donor than when we're talking about sacrificing $10. And the difference between the two may well be much greater than $35,000/10. The $10 sacrifice is essentially trivial, while the $35,000 may wreck the donor's life for months or years to to come.

The slightly altruistic donor/voter of my model might well reason that this massive sacrifice on his part outweighs the utility gain to the rest of the population from having the right candidate win, so long as he discounts the latter by a factor of 1000. It's worth noting, however, that there are in fact people who sacrifice the equivalent of 70% of one year's income to try to ensure that their preferred candidate will win an election. Many campaign volunteers do precisely that. I suspect that there would be more such people if they could be assured that their sacrifice would guarantee victory, rather than just increase the likelihood somewhat at the margin.

In a large and diverse electorate, the 1/1000 figure is best viewed as a rough average rather than as a precise estimate of every individual voter's degree of altruism. In reality, some people are much less altruistic than this and others more so.

Dave Hardy (mail) (www):
Based on these discussions, I have concluded that casting a vote may completely ruin me, and the economics is indeed the dismal science. I shall stay home and read off-color Restoration plays.
11.5.2006 11:02pm
Eric Crampton (mail):
Aren't there more efficient mechanisms for helping others than voting? Surely the altruist would do better to spend an hour either volunteering for a charity he endorses or working an hour's overtime and donating the money to charity.

Moreover, the more likely you are to be the decisive voter, the more likely you are to anger half the voting population by your vote; to them, your contribution has been a public bad rather than a public good. So shouldn't we only be viewing this as a public good to the winning side, from which losses to the losing side need be netted? Again, this pushes us towards alternate uses of the time as being preferable to voting even for altruists. We'd need to specify a particular kind of paternalistic altruist to not run into this problem, no?
11.5.2006 11:09pm
frankcross (mail):
But if this were true, rates of turnout would be proportional to the anticipated closeness of an election. And I just don't think the evidence shows that.
Here's one counterexample -- after the 1980 election was called for Reagan and Carter conceded, a lot of people still went to the polls and voted. That seems pretty odd, I admit, but it happened.
11.5.2006 11:19pm
Ilya Somin:
But if this were true, rates of turnout would be proportional to the anticipated closeness of an election. And I just don't think the evidence shows that.
Here's one counterexample -- after the 1980 election was called for Reagan and Carter conceded, a lot of people still went to the polls and voted. That seems pretty odd, I admit, but it happened.


Actually, decades of research do in fact show that turnout goes up with anticipated closeness. The increased turnout in the 2004 election relative to previous elections is a dramatic example of this. As for Reagan and Carter, I suspect that people still went to the polls because 1) not everyone knew that Carter had conceded (if you were at the polls or at work, you probably weren't watching TV), and 2) the presidential race was not the only one on the ballot. There were also congressional and state-level races.
11.5.2006 11:25pm
reneviht (mail) (www):
Re Eric Crampton:
Aren't there more efficient mechanisms for helping others than voting? Surely the altruist would do better to spend an hour either volunteering for a charity he endorses or working an hour's overtime and donating the money to charity.
Perhaps, but it probably takes more time to set up an hour of charity or (in many cases) guarantee payment for the hour of overtime than to register to vote, especially since one often votes for more than one election at a time.
Really, I shouldn't have commented, since I haven't read the paper Ilya linked to.
11.5.2006 11:55pm
Kathy T (mail) (www):
So there is the utility of voting with respect to the specific choice, but you should also weigh into it the choice to vote in general because it's a better system than despotism, monarchy, plutarchy.

Personally, I'd go with anarcho-communism, but september 11 taught us that many still need rule of law. Until we evolve past it, why give despots/plutocrats more power than they already have by not voting?

Best,
KT
11.6.2006 1:44am
frankcross (mail):
Ilya, that's non-responsive. There's an effect, but it's not proportional. You can't just show a relationship, which can be explained otherwise, you need to confirm a prediction.

As for Carter, you would expect voting to drop by the difference between an off-term and presidential election, and it did not.
11.6.2006 10:23am
knatoli (mail):
If you can’t stomach what has to be done to debride the putrid, festering wound that is the Bush administration, its okay to sit this one out.

I swear no allegiance to any political party; I am an American first, last and always.
11.6.2006 11:01am
KeithK (mail):
Whether or not it's rational to vote, it is clearly irrational to be upset about low voter turnout. Fewer votes mean that my vote is more likely to be decisive. Then again, thos who complain most about voter turnout probably assume that the folks who don't vote would naturally vote for the complainer's candidates and issues. Increasing turn out of like minded voters is certainly rational.
11.6.2006 1:36pm
David Chesler (mail) (www):
Whether or not it's rational to vote, it is clearly irrational to be upset about low voter turnout. Fewer votes mean that my vote is more likely to be decisive.

The more people vote, the more they believe they are participating, and the easier it is to get them to go along with my evil plans (mwuuhahahaha.)
11.6.2006 5:16pm