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Jon Stewart on the Minuteman Protest at Columbia:
The excerpt from the Daily Show is here.

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Mike BUSL07 (mail) (www):
Money. It's definitely hard to spin this without lying, i.e., "They attacked *us*."
10.11.2006 8:31pm
Ramza:
Congratulations, protesters, you've managed to make Sean Hannity seem like the reasonable one.
10.11.2006 8:41pm
HLSbertarian (mail):
More even-handed mockery like this and I might start watching regularly again. Hell, I'd settle for a daily Howard Dean minute.
10.11.2006 8:42pm
PooHPoohBear:
I saw the Hannity Show (Does Colmes really exist?) when the protesters were on. The only people dumber are the parents paying for these kids' education.
10.11.2006 8:58pm
Vovan:
Heh,

Shorter Columbia protesters: "We tried our best, you know the rest"
10.11.2006 9:06pm
JB:
I'm telling you, when the Dems take power back, the Daily Show will start mocking them. The left will cry betrayal, but the ratings will hold steady in the long term.
10.11.2006 9:09pm
Colin (mail):
I'm telling you, when the Dems take power back, the Daily Show will start mocking them. The left will cry betrayal, but the ratings will hold steady in the long term.

Hasn't Jon Stewart said as much himself, and pretty explicitly? I forget the context, but I remember him pointing out that satire is only satisfying when it's aimed at the powerful.
10.11.2006 9:34pm
Ramza:
Jon Stewart has mocked the Democrats alot over the past few years, his mocking has been at their incompontence and their inability to be an effective counter party to the Republicans. Highlighting that Democrats never give up an opportunity to mess up an oppurtunity.

When the Democrats become a party that actually controls one of the legislatures or the presidency in Washingtion, I am sure the Daily Show will be mocking them too.
10.11.2006 9:51pm
Broncos:
He'll mock the Democrats, but the crux of the jokes will probably be how they sell out their liberal values, like the far left mocked Clinton.
10.11.2006 9:57pm
Dave Hardy (mail) (www):
Highlighting that Democrats never give up an opportunity to mess up an opportunity.

Will the Republican sue for patent infringement or appropriation of trade secrets?
10.11.2006 10:44pm
liberty (mail) (www):
"Does Colmes really exist?"

Yes, he exists, frightening though he may occasionally be. I Like him though anyway, he's funny.
10.11.2006 10:52pm
gr (www):

I forget the context, but I remember him pointing out that satire is only satisfying when it's aimed at the powerful.

He strikes at the democrats a lot now.
10.12.2006 12:34am
MnZ (mail):
Straight from the mouths of Columbia students:
"They attacked us."
"We didn't shut them down, they shut themselves down."

I guess these kids view "1984" as a "how-to" book.
10.12.2006 1:16am
A. Zarkov (mail):
Does Colmes really exist?

I doubt it. It's hard to believe anyone could be that stupid. He's some actor the Republicans hired to make the liberals look silly.
10.12.2006 3:09am
jim:

He'll mock the Democrats, but the crux of the jokes will probably be how they sell out their liberal values


A fair bet considering many of the jokes against Republicans are that they sell out their conservative values. Hypocrisy is highly mockable.
10.12.2006 4:05am
Bryan Long:
He'll mock the Democrats, but the crux of the jokes will probably be how they sell out their liberal values, like the far left mocked Clinton.

The "far left"? Maoists? Marxist-Leninists? Sans-culottes? Somehow I doubt their commitment to or interest in "liberal values."
10.12.2006 4:07am
davod (mail):
Life imitates fiction. Last night Columbia U cancelled a meeting where former terrorist Walid Shoebat was to appear. Now the protestors do not have to protest to stifle free speech.
10.12.2006 4:58am
Duncan Frissell (mail):
I always thought right wingers should organize a quarterstaff corps just for these events. A dozen guys with quarterstaffs could really suppress the commies. And they're street legal.
10.12.2006 7:55am
devil's advocate (mail):
I would note that if hard core leftists went to some red-blooded rural red-state area and started spouting out their radical beliefs I reckon they might face some physical intimidation as well (see Mississippi burning). I imagine a socialist party storefront would get attacked pretty darn quick in most small towns in the heartland, where all the supposed "freedom-loving" Americans live. Chomsky might reasonably fear for his safety in a VFW bar or at a christian university in small town, mid-america.

I am disappointed that the columbia audience couldn't create a contrast, but when you go to a diverse area proud of its many ethnicities and spout blatantly racist beliefs, it is not out of the quesiton that you would be in a sticky situation. People tend to take those sorts of opinions very personally. It's sad but true.

We're all for free speech but no one honestly expects the KKK will ever be able to exercise that right in S Central LA without police protection. that's just human nature, unfortunately, no matter how "big" all us intellectuals are. I wuold also note, no one here seems to be defending the minutemen's views--they beef isnt with "illegal" immigration, they believe these brown people are ruining the whiteness that made America great (see Buchanan's book).

I seem to remember a hypothetical in torts class where a jewish man or black man might have a defense against a battery charge induced by a especially vicious racial provocation. I am not defending such violence and the kids at columbia made a stupid decision and have no such defense. My point is that everyone--conservatives and liberals tend to react violently, even physically violently--to strong provocations that cut to their very self-identity (ethnicity, anti-communism). Academics, professors, and intellectuals tend not to have those violent reactions and do not fully understand them in others.
10.12.2006 12:18pm
ctb (mail):
Dear devil's advocate,

Strange that you couldn't actually point to a real event that proves your point about conservatives. You mention Mississippi Burning? Can't you get a little closer than the 1960s? And then to compare this minuteman to the KKK spouting hatred in LA? Let's get real.

Oh and what exactly were the "blatantly racists beliefs" this guy was spouting in public?
10.12.2006 12:33pm
ctb (mail):
And bring Chomsky to my "Christian University" and I guarantee there will be no cause for concern regarding his safety. There would be no violence, no rushing the stage.
10.12.2006 12:35pm
MnZ (mail):
devil's advocate,

You are correct. People on the Right might very well behave in the same way. However, they would probably not engage in the same amount of doublethink to justify their actions.
10.12.2006 12:37pm
lucia (mail) (www):
Devil's Advocate,
You say a number of true things, but what's your point?

Sure, people aren't discussing the minutemen's message while also discussing violent assault by the Columbia protestors. The Columbia Protestors orchestrated assault conducted to surpress free speech. Both the assault and attempt to surpress free speech were wrong-- irrespective of the minutemen's message. We don't discuss the message because it is irrelevant in this context. (Advice to those who want to discuss the minutemen's message: discuss it!)

Sure many people are inclined to supress free speech, some, like the protestors at Columbia actually do so. Sure, police protection would be required if the KKK chose to protest in Central LA. That's why competent administrators and elected officials arrange the police protection often at the city's cost. When administrators and authorities fail to forsee these mini-riots, they try to identify those who committed crimes, arrest and punish them. (If the administrators don't do any of these things, the are criticized and often booted out of their jobs or political offices.)

Few buy the argument, "Well, the people who were assaulted might, hypothetically, have done the same under other circumstances. So, it's all right then."

Libertarians may wish for a small government that does as little as necessary to permit smooth functioning of society, but I don't think they want it quite that small! ( I think the term for those who want zero government is anarchists?)
10.12.2006 1:00pm
Steve P. (mail):
I always thought right wingers should organize a quarterstaff corps just for these events. A dozen guys with quarterstaffs could really suppress the commies. And they're street legal.

Yes... I'm sure that wouldn't look silly.
10.12.2006 1:50pm
Shake-N-Bake (www):
I always thought right wingers should organize a quarterstaff corps just for these events. A dozen guys with quarterstaffs could really suppress the commies. And they're street legal.

That makes me think of the old internet favorite involving "I put on my wizard cap and robe..."

Stewart has been making fun of both parties for years. The goal of his show is comedy, and lord knows both sides do plenty of things that are ripe for satire or jokes. Doesn't really even matter who the host is either, they made fun of everyone when Kilborn hosted it too.
10.12.2006 3:30pm
Jaime non-Lawyer:
D. Advocate:

What is racist about opposing illegal immigration? What is wrong with wanting our immigration laws to be enforced? What is wrong with not wanting an uncontrolled flow of people over our border? What were the racist beliefs that Gilcrist was spouting? What book by Buchanon are you refering to? Where's the evidence in your argument?
10.12.2006 4:52pm
The General:
These violent protestors think they can do this crap because they know there won't be any consequences. Who will punish them? Some pencil-necked administrator at Columbia who agrees with them? Get real. A baseball bat to these protesters' mellons would scare the rest off pretty quickly and it would be totally justified as self-defense and defense of others. These spoiled little peons who've never worked a day in their lives would get what they deserve, too.
10.12.2006 5:00pm
Daniel Chapman (mail):
Errr... wrong, General. Very very wrong.
10.12.2006 6:07pm
raj (mail):
Shorter Columbia protesters: "We tried our best, you know the rest"

If the Columbia protesters had just sat in the audience (apparently, they took up more than a few of the seats) and remained quiet, this would not have become a cause celebre among the wingnuts. One might almost wonder if the wingnust paid them to make a scene.
10.13.2006 12:47pm