or does he really?
Austin Bay said that all wars are "at some point morally compromised". Actually, this is true of all governments, all criminal justice systems and all prisons, too, not to mention all media organizations, all religious institutions and all political parties.
So, when the Democratic Party was trying to elect Kerry, did they spend a lot of time agonizing about their many moral lapses beginning with Madison and Jefferson's support of slavery, or did they put heart and soul into winning? Generally, they toed the party line and tried to win, just like the Republicans. After the election there was much soul searching. If Dick Durbin can understand that, maybe he can understand how to support the troops.
The irony -- how do you know that? Given that the people on Gitmo have never been given any process, it is impossible to know.
And Patrick, I hope you are kidding -- remember the Vietnam war lasted twice as long, so we have already beaten the N. Vietnamese. Very sad, and I am sure the North Vietnamese "investigated" a lot of the killings that happened on their watch too.
As to the accusation that we are not reading Durbin's quote literally, you have to be kidding -- Durbin never said what you accuse him of saying -- he said exactly what I said he said, and what Henry quoted him as saying -- he never said jack about the "soldiers" -- go look at his quote, instead of getting your news from Instapundit and Bill O'Reilly.
18 killed in riots (or whilst attacking US personnel), 22 killed in a single insurgent attack on Abu Ghraib, 28 or more listed as "natural causes or accidents,"
Dick Durbin Apologizes,
or does he really?
The military tribunals of suspected terrorists held at Guantánamo Bay were a "tremendous failure", a US military lawyer told Congress yesterday.
Navy Lieutenant Commander Charles Swift was testifying before the first full Senate hearing on the Bush administration's treatment of detainees since the "war on terror" began.
His comments come amid calls from Democrats and some Republicans that the Guantánamo Bay prison camp be closed down.
Lt Cdr Swift was assigned to represent Salim Ahmed Hamdan, Osama bin Laden's driver, whom he said had been left mentally disturbed after being held in solitary confinement for seven months. Lt Cdr Swift said that Mr Hamdan was offered the opportunity to see a defence lawyer only if he pleaded guilty to the charges made against him.
He told the Senate judiciary committee: "Mr Hamdan was on the verge of being coerced into a guilty plea or deteriorating mentally to the point that he would be unable to assist in his defence if he ever came to trial.
"We have lost sight of our fundamental values to the point that Mr Hamdan faces judgement for allegedly violating the law of war in a tribunal that fails to live up to the standards of justice required by that same law."
Brigadier General Thomas Hemingway, a legal adviser to the military commissions, denied that access to lawyers had been made conditional on a guilty plea.
He also objected to the description of Mr Hamdan's conditions as "solitary confinement", describing it instead as "segregation". He did not explain the difference.